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parkdalian · 06-27-2002, 08:52 PM

I had a look at <a href="http://www.restorethepledge.com/" target="_blank"> Newdow's website...</a>. Apparently, he is your average, run-of-the-mill atheist Reverend.

Here's his <a href="http://www.restorethepledge.com/mike_newdow/" target="_blank">bio.</a> And finally here's where he got his <a href="http://ulconline.com/" target="_blank">reverend title (from the Universal Life Church)</a>

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parkdalian · 06-27-2002, 09:35 PM

Newdow will be crucified by the media, I'm afraid.

RufusAtticus · 06-27-2002, 09:52 PM

Actually, Newdow has been kicking butt on every show he is on. The ruling is complete common sense. "Under god" equals religion. The only think the pro-theocracy people have for them is emotion and mob mentality. Sadly, that's probably all they need.

Does anybody remember back to the school prayer case? Were the experts predicting that it would fail also?

~~RvFvS~~

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parkdalian · 06-27-2002, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RufusAtticus:
Actually, Newdow has been kicking butt on every show he is on. The ruling is complete common sense. "Under god" equals religion. The only think the pro-theocracy people have for them is emotion and mob mentality. Sadly, that's probably all they need.

Does anybody remember back to the school prayer case? Were the experts predicting that it would fail also?

~~RvFvS~~

Doesn't his former church, "Universal Life Church" make you a little uneasy? The church, one of those instant reverend mills, amounts to a tax dodge. His newest, which he started himself, is called the oxymoronic "First Amendmist (sic) Church of True Science (FACTS for short).

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RufusAtticus · 06-27-2002, 10:21 PM

We have many people on this board with the same reverend credentials. It's basicly an Atheist protest of organized religion. "Reverends" are given a lot of power in our culture and by the government. Who cares if the that chuch is a degree mill? I have yet to see a single atheist claim to be a moral authority because he has a ULC certificate.

~~RvFvS~~

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parkdalian · 06-27-2002, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RufusAtticus:
We have many people on this board with the same reverend credentials. It's basicly an Atheist protest of organized religion. "Reverends" are given a lot of power in our culture and by the government. Who cares if the that chuch is a degree mill? I have yet to see a single atheist claim to be a moral authority because he has a ULC certificate.

~~RvFvS~~]

That answers my questions, he's not a kook. Thanks for the info.

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HumanisTim · 06-28-2002, 04:57 AM

Though he has my full support on the pledge issue. Maybe. What people really need to go after him for ,is the annoyingly loud midi music on his site.

Peregrine · 06-28-2002, 08:46 AM

I got ordained in the ULC, Inc. back 31 years ago.

Spazmatic · 06-28-2002, 10:02 AM

Hmm...

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Equal_Mark · 06-28-2002, 11:01 AM

From the standpoint of constitutional law the ruling was entirely correct. however, with the current wave of so-called "Patriotism" I'm afraid the ruling is so gossly politically incorrect it will most likely be overturned.

I've not seen the Republicans and Democrats so joined at the hip since the events of 9/11. It is similar to a political candidate declaring themself "Anti-Crime," Who's going to raise the "Pro Crime" gauntlet?

06-27-2002, 08:52 PM	#1
parkdalian Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nouveau-Brunswick Posts: 507	Reverend Newdow? I had a look at <a href="http://www.restorethepledge.com/" target="_blank"> Newdow's website...</a>. Apparently, he is your average, run-of-the-mill atheist Reverend. Here's his <a href="http://www.restorethepledge.com/mike_newdow/" target="_blank">bio.</a> And finally here's where he got his <a href="http://ulconline.com/" target="_blank">reverend title (from the Universal Life Church)</a> [ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: parkdalian ]</p>

06-27-2002, 09:52 PM	#3
RufusAtticus Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NCSU Posts: 5,853	Actually, Newdow has been kicking butt on every show he is on. The ruling is complete common sense. "Under god" equals religion. The only think the pro-theocracy people have for them is emotion and mob mentality. Sadly, that's probably all they need. Does anybody remember back to the school prayer case? Were the experts predicting that it would fail also? ~~RvFvS~~ [ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: RufusAtticus ]</p>

06-27-2002, 10:21 PM	#5
RufusAtticus Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NCSU Posts: 5,853	We have many people on this board with the same reverend credentials. It's basicly an Atheist protest of organized religion. "Reverends" are given a lot of power in our culture and by the government. Who cares if the that chuch is a degree mill? I have yet to see a single atheist claim to be a moral authority because he has a ULC certificate. ~~RvFvS~~ [ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: RufusAtticus ]</p>

06-28-2002, 10:02 AM	#9
Spazmatic Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 55	Hmm... [ June 28, 2002: Message edited by: Spazmatic ]</p>

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06-27-2002, 09:35 PM	#2
parkdalian Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nouveau-Brunswick Posts: 507	Newdow will be crucified by the media, I'm afraid.

06-28-2002, 04:57 AM	#7
HumanisTim Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Reading,PA Posts: 233	Though he has my full support on the pledge issue. Maybe. What people really need to go after him for ,is the annoyingly loud midi music on his site.

06-28-2002, 08:46 AM	#8
Peregrine Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 385	I got ordained in the ULC, Inc. back 31 years ago.

06-28-2002, 11:01 AM	#10
Equal_Mark Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Exit 109 Joisey Posts: 135	From the standpoint of constitutional law the ruling was entirely correct. however, with the current wave of so-called "Patriotism" I'm afraid the ruling is so gossly politically incorrect it will most likely be overturned. I've not seen the Republicans and Democrats so joined at the hip since the events of 9/11. It is similar to a political candidate declaring themself "Anti-Crime," Who's going to raise the "Pro Crime" gauntlet?

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