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If the above-mentioned deity were omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, then thanking him would be equally pointless. He would already know that you were planning to thank him. Funny thing about this god...my parents always told me it was polite to say "you're welcome" after someone has thanked you. People have been thanking god for millenia, yet he has not once said "you're welcome." Is god rude? |
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Like many here, I assumed Sonny Burnett’s asinine OP was a leg-pull, but the sad fact is, I do know Christians who would think it to be perfectly sensible. So, for the benefit of lurkers - and Paul - I’m posting a response.
Addressed to Sonny, it goes something like this: I expect you think god is as real as the nose on your face? Well, I can tell you he isn’t or I wouldn’t be writing this. There wouldn’t be an Internet Infidels either. After all, no one says you haven’t got a nose, so how come we can say there isn’t a god? That’s because your certainty about god being real is based on supposition, not on knowledge. And when it comes to suppositions, I am as entitled to mine as you are to yours. So the god which you are certain exists is based on the one you are taught about and read about in the Bible, and the god a Muslim is certain exists is based on the one he's been taught about and read about in the Koran, and who is to say which of you is right? Quoting holy books won’t do because a Muslim believes his holy book to be just as holy as you believe yours to be. You have your priests and prophets. He has his. You say Muslims are damned. Muslims say Christians are. So where are we? In the realm of beliefs, where anything I believe in has just as much merit - or just as little - as anything you do. The only thing which might settle the argument is if I am stronger than you, or my god has more followers than yours. Ever wondered about religious wars and religious persecution and why they happen? Well, that’s why. Religious beliefs are inside people’s heads, shaped by culture, tradition and personal psychological needs They vary because these three elements vary, and that explains why there are so many religions, so many cults, so many denominations, so many disagreements. Come back to Infidels, Sunny, when every religious person in the world agrees about what god is and what god wants. Then we’ll listen. |
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It seems like some Christians want it both ways - what makes sense is obvious and true. What does not make sense or is contradictory, is deemed "beyond comprehension." You may be happy in your comfort zone of understanding, and that's your perrogrative. But I cannot resign myself to a position that rewards a lack of critical analysis, as you say here: Quote:
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The Bible is a fine example of his rudeness. Look at all the evil things he did, such as breaking promises, ordering the death of an entire civilization... Man, not only is he rude, he's also a piece of shit. And he oughtn't get offended, as he created shit in the first place anyways. |
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As an example--my mother never hid from me in order to give me the 'choice' of whether to love her or not. The existence of my mother was something I never questioned, but that didn't 'force' me to love her. I loved her because of the way she treated me, and because she loved me. That didn't remove free will--I could still have been a monstrous son and refused to love my mom. Why the heck would a God need to hide from his creation? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. So Paul, you are just parroting a nonsensical argument that your priest told you, or that you heard from some other Christian, and you never even bothered to think it through. -Kelly |
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It looks like Sonny Burnett started this thread on January 26th and he still only has one post; he has no intention of responding to anyone. I can just picture him typing up that absurd drivel, clicking the post button, and smugly sitting back in his chair while saying, "There. That'll stump 'em!"
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