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Old 09-02-2002, 05:15 AM   #51
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<strong>That is a good question. If a person started believing in imaginary things and decided to devote their entire life to these imaginings, under those conditions most people wouldn't think twice about seeking help. If it is the lunacy of Christianity on the otherhand, it is OK. Fancy that.</strong>
Yes, but, isn't one point of freedom of religion, that neither Christians nor atheists can be assumed to be mentally ill just because the consensus of society may be against them.

I think it would cut both ways if we agreed that you can force someone to seek psychiatric help who doesn't agree with your beliefs. I don't think we'd really want that, would we?

Anyway, this is difficult because people who need psychiatric help probably are not aware that they do in most cases. So maybe intervention is needed at times. But not solely on the grounds that "you don't agree with my belief system", imo

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Old 09-02-2002, 09:35 AM   #52
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What a great idea! Live and let live! What a concept. Now if only we could get Christians to practice it. Go figure that those most convinced of their moral superiority would be the most aggressive oppressors. What a great religion, NOT!

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Old 09-02-2002, 10:15 AM   #53
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What a great idea! Live and let live! What a concept. Now if only we could get Christians to practice it. Go figure that those most convinced of their moral superiority would be the most aggressive oppressors. What a great religion, NOT!

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Starboy, if you want to post on this thread, do you think your posts could be more related to the thread topic?

There's the rest of this forum for other posts about religion and a whole forum for rants (Rants, Raves and Preaching) if you want to complain about Christianity. Why not start your own thread to do that rather than post your complaints about it here, where they aren't answering the 'what would you do' question at all? I would appreciate that.

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Old 09-02-2002, 01:07 PM   #54
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IMO it is relevant. Atheists are concerned about their children becoming christians because it is such a poor excuse for a way to live your life. If being a christian was such a wonderful experience for both christians and non-christians we would not be having this discussion. Christians can dish it out but they can't take it!

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IMO it is relevant. Atheists are concerned about their children becoming christians because it is such a poor excuse for a way to live your life. If being a christian was such a wonderful experience for both christians and non-christians we would not be having this discussion. Christians can dish it out but they can't take it!

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What is relevant to the discussion is what you would do if your child would decide to become a Christian. The issue of whether Christianity itself is rational is irrelevant. We can assume for the sake of discussion that Christianity is irrational. If that is what you think fine. Now what would you do if your child decided to become one. That is the issue of discussion.
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IMO it is relevant. Atheists are concerned about their children becoming christians because it is such a poor excuse for a way to live your life. If being a christian was such a wonderful experience for both christians and non-christians we would not be having this discussion. Christians can dish it out but they can't take it!

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A valid answer to "What would you to if..." is going to be of the form "I would..."

"Christianity sucks" is not of that form.

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<strong>Go figure that those most convinced of their moral superiority would be the most aggressive oppressors. </strong>
Pot. Kettle. Black.

Please don't run this thread aground with excess amounts of sarcasm. Peppering a serious thread (posted by a serious, thoughtful, and respectful person) is completely unnecessary.

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Perhaps I am being over critical, but the post begs for it. If these issues did not exsist, the original question would have no relevance.

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<strong>Perhaps I am being over critical, but the post begs for it.</strong>
I just re-read Helen's OP and all the subsequent posts as well, and no where did I see posts that screamed "pleasepleaseplease post scathing caustic commentary here!"
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If atheist parents didn't care and have good reason to care and respond accordingly, why bother asking the question at all. Or was the desired response, "Oh my, its not so bad being a Christian." We are atheists for a reason; it is not as if we aren’t constantly being bombarded by the Christian world. If my Children told me they were becoming members of the Klan (another fine Christian organization), I would fight just as hard to save them from themselves.

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