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OBKB · 02-09-2003, 08:22 AM

History taught me that Rome (Cesar and company) died and vaporized. I say that the Roman Empire got smart. They became magicians (experts at slight of hand/mind) and dawned a new set of clothes.

Bear with me here for a moment. Let�s imagine an asymmetrical tunnel between one group of people and another. Through the asymmetrical tunnel all sorts of goods for trade are sent and received. One group needs raw material to manufacture wheels and the group at the far end of the asymmetrical pipe is not willing to trade or give up their iron ore. Rather than reduce the received part of the asymmetrical tunnel with a war supply column we can send one Jesuit into their midst and guilt those people into simply giving us what we want. The result on our infrastructure is minimal because we don�t need a war machine to get what we want. Now how does my afore mentioned model fit with the history of Christianity? How many missions do they have around the world?

02-09-2003, 01:19 PM

You've got that backwards because without the connection between the two, the iron ore would just become one heap of rusty iron. The Church purified this heap of iron into gold and made the whole world happy (which is why they have been rejoicing ever since) . . . until the rest of the world tried it on their own and that is why we now have poverty but once again see richess except they now belong to the "other side."

Ojuice5001 · 02-09-2003, 04:48 PM

What actually happened was that Rome was the seat of Jupiter's power, and the emotional Jewish deity known as Yahweh wanted to take Rome from him. Yahweh did not have the strength to take it by force, so he created a religion even stranger than Judaism to do it for him. This religion preached kindness, for the sole reason that people like religions that preach kindness. Yahweh succeeded in making Rome his, and he sank to the lowest common denominator of rulership of the Empire.

Jupiter and crew have regained a lot of influence, but Rome is still in the hands of Yahweh. Neither the Roman nor the atheist gods have succeeded in taking control of Rome from Yahweh. I have little hope that they ever will; my goal is to take Florida and make that into Jupiter's realm. Even this seems hard for me to help with; I don't know how to give aid to an invisible being. Yet it is necessary.

It is so!

hezekiah jones · 02-09-2003, 06:30 PM

Luiseach · 02-09-2003, 06:33 PM

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Corona688 · 02-09-2003, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Ojuice5001
What actually happened was that Rome was the seat of Jupiter's power, and the emotional Jewish deity known as Yahweh wanted to take Rome from him. Yahweh did not have the strength to take it by force, so he created a religion even stranger than Judaism to do it for him. This religion preached kindness, for the sole reason that people like religions that preach kindness. Yahweh succeeded in making Rome his, and he sank to the lowest common denominator of rulership of the Empire.

Jupiter and crew have regained a lot of influence, but Rome is still in the hands of Yahweh. Neither the Roman nor the atheist gods have succeeded in taking control of Rome from Yahweh. I have little hope that they ever will; my goal is to take Florida and make that into Jupiter's realm. Even this seems hard for me to help with; I don't know how to give aid to an invisible being. Yet it is necessary.

It is so!

That almost makes sense given your POV, except for the 'atheist gods' part. What the heck does that mean?

lunachick · 02-09-2003, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by Amos
The Church purified this heap of iron into gold

The church practised alchemy??!! Isn't that like...magick, and therefore verbotten??

Or was it just that they stole lots of gold?

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and made the whole world happy (which is why they have been rejoicing ever since)

Oh, come on, Amos! They did not make the whole world happy, and they are not still rejoicing. If anything, they are caught up in a PR nightmare of their own making - I don't care how loudly you sing Karen Carpenter:

"I'm on the top of the world,
looking down on creation,
and the only explanation I can find,
is the food that I purged
ever since I lost the urge", etc...

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until the rest of the world tried it on their own and that is why we now have poverty but once again see richess except they now belong to the "other side."

"We chased our pleasures here
Dug our treasures there
But can you still recall
The time we cried
Break on through to the other side
Break on through to the other side
Yeah!
C'mon, yeah"
- Jim Morrison.

lunachick · 02-09-2003, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by OBKB
One group needs raw material to manufacture wheels and the group at the far end of the asymmetrical pipe is not willing to trade or give up their iron ore. Rather than reduce the received part of the asymmetrical tunnel with a war supply column we can send one Jesuit into their midst and guilt those people into simply giving us what we want. The result on our infrastructure is minimal because we don�t need a war machine to get what we want. Now how does my afore mentioned model fit with the history of Christianity? How many missions do they have around the world?

Fuck the missionaries. I think it's time to reinvent the wheel!

lunachick · 02-09-2003, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by Corona688
That almost makes sense given your POV, except for the 'atheist gods' part. What the heck does that mean?

Typo, maybe?? I have an atheist dog...???

Oxidizing Material · 02-09-2003, 08:32 PM

Belief has no inherent value, but worship of such nonvalue as a god, equates to nonacceptance of Cubic knowledge - as demonstrated by ineffable Truth and the Highest Order of Wisdom. I can talk with a human for hours about the Time Cube and they will agree with every claim I make. But at the end of the conversation, they remark that they believe in the nonvalue belief god and cannot accept Cubic Creation, regardless of all the ineffable Truth and Wisdom it proves. A Belief Matrix pulls a 1 day world over your eyes, while the real Cubic World has 4 simultaneous days in 1 Earth rotation. Educators own your mind and fills it with garbage, that will soon destroy humanity.

02-09-2003, 08:22 AM	#1
OBKB Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Paris/AR/USA Posts: 122	Rome has new clothes History taught me that Rome (Cesar and company) died and vaporized. I say that the Roman Empire got smart. They became magicians (experts at slight of hand/mind) and dawned a new set of clothes. Bear with me here for a moment. Let�s imagine an asymmetrical tunnel between one group of people and another. Through the asymmetrical tunnel all sorts of goods for trade are sent and received. One group needs raw material to manufacture wheels and the group at the far end of the asymmetrical pipe is not willing to trade or give up their iron ore. Rather than reduce the received part of the asymmetrical tunnel with a war supply column we can send one Jesuit into their midst and guilt those people into simply giving us what we want. The result on our infrastructure is minimal because we don�t need a war machine to get what we want. Now how does my afore mentioned model fit with the history of Christianity? How many missions do they have around the world?

02-09-2003, 01:19 PM	#2
Amos Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Rome has new clothes You've got that backwards because without the connection between the two, the iron ore would just become one heap of rusty iron. The Church purified this heap of iron into gold and made the whole world happy (which is why they have been rejoicing ever since) . . . until the rest of the world tried it on their own and that is why we now have poverty but once again see richess except they now belong to the "other side."

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02-09-2003, 04:48 PM	#3
Ojuice5001 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A city in Florida that I love Posts: 3,416	What actually happened was that Rome was the seat of Jupiter's power, and the emotional Jewish deity known as Yahweh wanted to take Rome from him. Yahweh did not have the strength to take it by force, so he created a religion even stranger than Judaism to do it for him. This religion preached kindness, for the sole reason that people like religions that preach kindness. Yahweh succeeded in making Rome his, and he sank to the lowest common denominator of rulership of the Empire. Jupiter and crew have regained a lot of influence, but Rome is still in the hands of Yahweh. Neither the Roman nor the atheist gods have succeeded in taking control of Rome from Yahweh. I have little hope that they ever will; my goal is to take Florida and make that into Jupiter's realm. Even this seems hard for me to help with; I don't know how to give aid to an invisible being. Yet it is necessary. It is so!

02-09-2003, 06:30 PM	#4
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02-09-2003, 08:32 PM	#10
Oxidizing Material Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 2,069	Belief has no inherent value, but worship of such nonvalue as a god, equates to nonacceptance of Cubic knowledge - as demonstrated by ineffable Truth and the Highest Order of Wisdom. I can talk with a human for hours about the Time Cube and they will agree with every claim I make. But at the end of the conversation, they remark that they believe in the nonvalue belief god and cannot accept Cubic Creation, regardless of all the ineffable Truth and Wisdom it proves. A Belief Matrix pulls a 1 day world over your eyes, while the real Cubic World has 4 simultaneous days in 1 Earth rotation. Educators own your mind and fills it with garbage, that will soon destroy humanity.

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