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Old 02-23-2003, 09:52 PM   #91
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And that means what? Your going there after Judgement anyway - sure you will get to try and plead your case before God but you are gonna fail miserably so what difference does it make? Might aswell get started early.
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How do you know it will happen? Have you traveled to the future to see it happen? (slightly edited by Filo)
I changed just two words and removed another from your reply to me earlier. The shoe's on the other foot. How does it fit?

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Oh my gosh! My first Notworthy!
I didn't know I was your first, it is an honor!

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He doesn't send you to Hell because you chose the wrong religion - you go there because you are covered in sin, an eternal criminal with a permanent record.
Feel the love! Yea baby!

I'm covered with skin, is that close enough?

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Hell is not a torture chamber found in China. Its just how bad things get when God is no longer there.
As opposed to say, Middle Age Europe during the Inquisition?

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And that means what? Your going there after Judgement anyway - sure you will get to try and plead your case before God but you are gonna fail miserably so what difference does it make? Might aswell get started early.
Ah, that ol' time religion. Not only do you get the gravy after death, you also get the warm and holy feeling that comes from sneering and boasting to the heathen masses about how God is gonna get us. I got tired of "my dad's bigger than your dad" when I was about nine.

On the topic of what to wear to court, I'll probably just grab a cheap suit from Top Shop or Marksies. No point in blowing a load of money on it, since I won't have any job interviews to wear it to afterwards. The most important thing is not to try and ingratiate yourself with the judge by making silly faces and joking on. They never buy that.
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All this talk about what to wear, and you guys are missing another critical point that Boro Nut raised: the waiting room!

Are there gonna be snacks? Bathrooms? Magazines? Are we allowed to talk to each other to rehearse our stories? Will we get to meet some celebrities?
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All this talk about what to wear, and you guys are missing another critical point that Boro Nut raised: the waiting room!

Are there gonna be snacks? Bathrooms? Magazines? Are we allowed to talk to each other to rehearse our stories? Will we get to meet some celebrities?
Hey, as long as there are a few old copies of Auto Trader and Punch lying around, I'm not bothered about snacks or drinks. I wouldn't want to get the pee shivers in the stand; would you like to explain why you're jumping up and down and crossing your legs to the Lord?

I like the idea of everyone getting their stories straight as well. Do you think it's worth intimidating a few witnesses? What sort of bail would be set? If you're already damned to Hell, could you also be held over for contempt of court?
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He doesn't send you to Hell because you chose the wrong religion - you go there because you are covered in sin, an eternal criminal with a permanent record.

[twisted, inhuman fantasies snipped]

Ah yes, Jesus Christ, bringer of enlightenment, peace, and compassion. But mostly self esteem.
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The rapture ( ascension of all believers to Heaven at Jesus' second coming) has no requirement for when it is to happen.
I would think not, considering it's not in the Bible at all.

Ask your preacher about that. And ask him what Christians 200 years ago thought about the Rapture. (Hint: they didn't, because it wasn't invented until the 19th century).

Then go to an accredited college or university with a religious studies department and ask one of the Bible professors about the Rapture, second coming, and Revelation. You may be surprised!
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Magus55: Ever wondered about this Jerusalem thing and Israel and the Temple and Armageddon - I mean, as they crop up in the prophecies about the Second Coming and the Last Trump and End of the World and all that stuff?
They were written by people - Jews exclusively - for whom the Temple, Jerusalem and Israel and Judaea were the centre of the universe. They didn’t know about China, Japan, India, Europe, the Americas etc. So it was natural for them to promote events in their small, squabbling corner of the world to cosmic importance.
History has left them up a backwater, and although Israel is still a possible catalyst for Big Events, the reason isn’t because the Jews, “God’s Chosen People” are involved but because Muslims are, and there are Muslims all over the world, and they’re getting pissed off.
These days, the fate of Jerusalem is of no greater importance, in terms of World History, than the fate of dozens of cities in the States, Canada or Europe. Your religion is pegged to the assumptions of a people who lived in antiquity and occupied a land of no economic significance. Israel has nothing for the rest of us to get worked up about - not even oil. And that’s odd; you’d have thought that if ever god had wanted to do his chosen people a favour, he’d at least have given them an oil-rich land.
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