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MacFreak · 06-06-2002, 08:11 AM

I've had a theory for a while: The great flood mentioned in Genesis was actually a local, rather than global event that was greatly exaggerated.

Is there any data to support this, and perhaps more importantly, what is the vessel that is located in the upper reaches of Mt. Ararat and how did it get there?

Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Jayhawker Soule · 06-06-2002, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by AMD:
I've had a theory for a while: ...

What caused you to drop it?

You might want to do a search on "flood'.

There was no vessel.

[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: ReasonableDoubt ]

Mageth · 06-06-2002, 08:41 AM

...what is the vessel that is located in the upper reaches of Mt. Ararat and how did it get there?

There is a vessel on Mt. Ararat only in people's imaginations spurred on by wishful thinking. It "got there" through a wide stretch of several people's imaginations and widespread credulity among the public.

MacFreak · 06-06-2002, 08:54 AM

I did a search and found some enlightening theories.

Jayhawker Soule · 06-06-2002, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMD:
I did a search and found some enlightening theories.

You searched where?
You found what theories?
You adjudged them to be enlightening based on what criteria?

[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: ReasonableDoubt ]

MacFreak · 06-06-2002, 10:03 AM

Google. The Skeptic's Annotated Bible to be exact.

Jayhawker Soule · 06-06-2002, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMD:
Google. The Skeptic's Annotated Bible to be exact.

You found what theories?
You adjudged them to be enlightening based on what criteria?

MacFreak · 06-06-2002, 11:06 AM

According to my research, there was no global flood. It was most likely localized flooding of the Tigris-Euphrates as no evidence of a global flood exists.

However, there does appear to be a boat on the mountain, but it's far too small to hold every life on the planet. And even the bible contradicts itself on the number and the variety of life that went into the ark. It even contradicts itself on the length of the deluge.

Long story short: The great flood story is an exaggeration.

FreeToThink · 06-06-2002, 11:16 AM

The best explanation for the flood myth that I have seen was put forth in a book entitled Noahs Flood by Bill Ryan and Walter Pittman. It seems that some 7500 years ago the present day Black Sea was an inland freshwater lake. The Mediterranean burst through at the Strait of Bosporous (sp) and inundated the entire area within a few years.

There is a downloadable Adobe Acrobat map of the area <a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/pdf/feature3_map.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>.

Also, there is a National Geographic article about Dr. Bob Ballard's expedition to the Black Sea <a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/feature3/index.html" target="_blank">here</a>.

Hope this helps.

MacFreak · 06-06-2002, 11:18 AM

Thank you.

I'm kind of short on time right now. I'll look over this when I get home from work.

06-06-2002, 08:11 AM	#1
MacFreak Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 63	Question about the "great flood" I've had a theory for a while: The great flood mentioned in Genesis was actually a local, rather than global event that was greatly exaggerated. Is there any data to support this, and perhaps more importantly, what is the vessel that is located in the upper reaches of Mt. Ararat and how did it get there? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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06-06-2002, 08:41 AM	#3
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	...what is the vessel that is located in the upper reaches of Mt. Ararat and how did it get there? There is a vessel on Mt. Ararat only in people's imaginations spurred on by wishful thinking. It "got there" through a wide stretch of several people's imaginations and widespread credulity among the public.

06-06-2002, 08:54 AM	#4
MacFreak Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 63	I did a search and found some enlightening theories.

06-06-2002, 10:03 AM	#6
MacFreak Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 63	Google. The Skeptic's Annotated Bible to be exact.

06-06-2002, 11:06 AM	#8
MacFreak Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 63	According to my research, there was no global flood. It was most likely localized flooding of the Tigris-Euphrates as no evidence of a global flood exists. However, there does appear to be a boat on the mountain, but it's far too small to hold every life on the planet. And even the bible contradicts itself on the number and the variety of life that went into the ark. It even contradicts itself on the length of the deluge. Long story short: The great flood story is an exaggeration.

06-06-2002, 11:16 AM	#9
FreeToThink Regular Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 167	The best explanation for the flood myth that I have seen was put forth in a book entitled Noahs Flood by Bill Ryan and Walter Pittman. It seems that some 7500 years ago the present day Black Sea was an inland freshwater lake. The Mediterranean burst through at the Strait of Bosporous (sp) and inundated the entire area within a few years. There is a downloadable Adobe Acrobat map of the area <a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/pdf/feature3_map.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>. Also, there is a National Geographic article about Dr. Bob Ballard's expedition to the Black Sea <a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0105/feature3/index.html" target="_blank">here</a>. Hope this helps.

06-06-2002, 11:18 AM	#10
MacFreak Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 63	Thank you. I'm kind of short on time right now. I'll look over this when I get home from work.

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