pz

Wait a minute -- I demand a clarification. I want to know who that flame was directed at: me or livius.

If it was me, livius is going to be sooooo jealous.

livius drusus

You know you get all the good ones, dammitall. There is no justice.

HelenM

Hey GeoTheo, give bg a break, would you? Or at least go read SL&S and see what she's been dealing with lately.

She has enough criticism to put up with already.

Helen

Derec

Ok, thanks Livius.

I don't see any reason why we should not respect her. I don't see anything wrong with being curious about women or having a fantasy. However, as pz said, her fucking a woman would not be any different than her fucking a man not her husband, so she should not take any unilateral action.
Now if her husband happens to be open to the idea of a threesome ...

Quote:

For the record, I think blondegoddess rules the school.

Talking from experience ?

UMoC

beth

I respect this. There is some truth to this. It probably was quite stupid, but so? my husband has an even better sense of humor than I do. I think he could take it. I also have no intention of deconverting him. I DO NOT want to take his faith away. I just want him to losen up.

Anyway, I would never cheat behind my husband's back and we both realize that if we do introduce a third person into our marriage, it's probably over. But we can think, huh?

Thanks for all the nice non-judgemental replies.

My apologies for all my drunken typos. I never realized they could be so annoying...

GeoTheo

Helen,
I am going to talk to you like you are an adult. I don't understand mental illness, but I don't think it means you should talk down to people because of it. I think you are an extremely intelligent person. It is not a Christians job to support people no matter what they do. If you support someone in their sin you are not a friend. If your highest goal in life is just to be nice to everybody you will fail at being a good person.
You told BlondeGoddess "Good luck in whatever you and your husband decide"
I think you should examine yourself.
To me that translates that you support her in whatever she decides. If she decides to commit fornication and defile her marriage bed she has your blessing? If she gets a divorce and goes on to persue a homosexual lifestyle she has your blessing?
I don't think you are doing her any good. She herself seems to understand my point and she also seems to understand that if she and her husband had a threesome their marriage would be over. These self righteous Guys on here that think they are being all supportive, are just following their base sexual impulses and taking voyeuristic pleasure in her posting on her and making a fool out of herself. They are not friends either.

livius drusus

How condescending of you. Helen's history of mental illness is not in the least way of issue in this thread and you will speak to her "like an adult" not because of your personal magnaminity, but because it is a requirement of your participation on this forum.

Your assessment of Helen strikes me as remarkably inaccurate and certainly based on a paucity of data.

Helen is wishing them luck, not anointing them with holy oil. You make a huge and entirely unsupported leap from a single good luck wish to blessings on defilement or however else your asphyxiating sexual mores characterize the private lives of consenting adults.

Blondegoddess understood you because the sex-negative refrain is a familiar one to her. That is no endorsement of your general point on fornication, but an acknowledgement that there are deep complexities to the situation that would need to be addressed or the consequences could be dire.

No, GeoTheo. We simply don't share your stifling views on sexuality. Seeing a woman explore her desires in a genuine, light-hearted, open manner is beautiful to me. I can see why it might be intimidating to someone who believes all desires that don't fit into the penis-vagina-intercourse-in-missionary-position-through-the-hole-in-the-sheet-for-procreation-purposes-only template are filthy examples of humanity's fall from grace. But for the unshackled among us, witnessing emancipation of any kind, emotional, sexual, intellectual, is an honor and a joy.

viscousmemories

I didn�t even realize christianity is a profession. I thought it was just a hobby for bored housewives and people with little to no imagination.Unless I�m the someone in question. All my best friends support me in my sin. That�s how I can tell my friends from the annoying religious salespeople that come by my house.

Right. In fact, you can quite easily determine the level of a person�s goodness by how many people they are not nice to. The fewer people you are nice to, the more good you are.
That�s a very interesting interpretation, but you might want to check your translation device. In what way does �whatever you AND your husband decide� translate into �whatever SHE decides�?Since we�ve now fixed the translation machine and are aware that Helen meant, well, what she actually said, god forbid, I think we can surmise that she didn�t mean to imply that any decision BG makes is okie-dokie. I, however, will offer her my blessing on both counts and on any other counts she dreams up. I�m just disappointed that she seems to buy into the idea that she should be embarrassed for discussing her desires. What century is this, anyway?Whereas your comments are surely filling her with the love and joy of your god.This is unjustified speculation, unless you�re implying that all christians must terminate their marriage immediately upon committing a sinful act, which I don�t believe I remember ever hearing about.Don�t you just hate self-righteous people? They are all so inferior to me too. I totally get where you�re coming from on that. And you�re right that someone couldn�t possibly be a friend who is� what was that you said earlier? Oh yeah, trying to be all nice and stuff. Not a good person, and surely not a friend.

wally

Blondegoddess,
If you are looking for a possible female partner, try your local swingers network. There should be some swinging wives who would be willing to "help out" in a case like yours. They are mostly just very nice laid-back folks who like some variety in their fuck partners.

As others have said, you do need to be up front with your hubby about your interests tho. Show him some girl-girl porn and see if he has any interest at all. Be aware there are risks, one is that you may enjoy it to the exclusion of your hubby.

GeoTheo

Well heres the thing with Helen, not that anybody cares what I have to say, If I vehemently disagree with Helen, as I have in the past, atheists on here jump all over me because she is mentally ill.
So basically that gives Helen liscence to say what ever she wants to anyone and not be held accountable. Basically, Helen wants all atheists to like her. She used to be a lot nastier to Christians that posted on here. She seems to have toned down a bit and actually seems to halfway defend Christian doctrine. It used to be that she came on here to bash Christians and she found a lot of sympathetic souls, obviously.
She was everybody's favorite Christian for a while.
I found this op repulsive. I stated my opinion on it. Then Helen gets on me. Like I said she has toned down, but it reminded me of her past behavior when she used to be a lot nastier to any Christian she felt was being judgemental and would attack people and was immune to any attack in return on acount of her illness. As far as all you people with your phony righteous indignation, swinging does not help a marriage. It scars people emotionally and destroys relationships. Just because all of you guys get turned on by lesbianism doesn't make it good.
This is my last post on this thread. Blondegoddess doesn't want godly advice, she wants advice from profligates, and saccharine Christians who will support her in everything she does as she deconverts from Christianity and destroys her marriage and family and tell her how brave she is.