mark9950

I heard and read somewhere that the word hell was put into the bible when translated into the KJV during King James rule as an expression of the ground.

The early english(british)They used to say that they would bury their potatoes in hell.

Any info on this.

If this would be the case mr. potato head is destined for hell.

emotional

"Hell" is a translation of Hebrew ge hinnom "the valley of Hinnom" or Greek hades "the underworld".

The original significance of "hell", in Teutonic mythology, is of a place of extreme cold where the non-warriors go (the warriors go to Valhalla). As far as I know.

MortalWombat

Isn't it also sometimes as a translation of sheol, "grave?"

emotional

No, sheol is translated as "grave" or as "Sheol".

Hosea 13:14

Hebrew: miyad sheol ephdem
KJV: "I will ransom them from the power of the grave"
NIV: "I will ransom them from the power of the grave"
NASB: "Shall I ransom them from the power of Sheol?"
JPS: "Shall I ransom them from the power of the nether-world?"

Demigawd

Hel was the Norse goddess of the dead, and ruled over the frozen underworld Niflheim. The Norse cult of masculinity held that brave men who died in battle went to Valhalla, a paradise of war, wenching, and quaffing of mead. Those who died in their beds went to the before-mentioned cold, miserable place.

mark9950

How mythology played a role in the bible.

Fascinating.

More on Hel

http://www.angelfire.com/journal/ofapoet/hel.html

MortalWombat

This page has a table listing the various translations for Hell or the underworld in the Bible. And yes, the King James version did translate Sheol as Hell in some places, and as grave in others.

EstherRose

Sorry mark 9950,

This doesn't really explain anything. Perhaps you have stronger proof to illustrate your point. You can just as easily claim the Nordic mythology got the name Hel from the Jewish word since it is older.

If you've got proof, I eagerly wait to see it.

mark9950

The original manuscripts and what that word meant at the time.

We perceive the word hell at a biblical viewpoint which is a mistranslation of the word grave.

from dictionary.com LOOK IT UP YOURSELF

hell ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hl)
n.

often Hell The abode of condemned souls and devils in some religions; the place of eternal punishment for the wicked after death, presided over by Satan.
A state of separation from God; exclusion from God's presence.
The abode of the dead, identified with the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades; the underworld.

A situation or place of evil, misery, discord, or destruction: “War is hell” (William Tecumseh Sherman).
Torment; anguish: went through hell on the job.

The powers of darkness and evil.
Informal. One that causes trouble, agony, or annoyance: The boss is hell when a job is poorly done.
A sharp scolding: gave the student hell for cheating.
Informal. Excitement, mischievousness, or high spirits: We did it for the sheer hell of it.

A tailor's receptacle for discarded material.
Printing. A hellbox.
Informal. Used as an intensive: How the hell can I go? You did one hell of a job.
Archaic. A gambling house.

intr.v. Informal helled, hell·ing, hells
To behave riotously; carouse: out all night helling around.

interj.
Used to express anger, disgust, or impatience.

Idioms:
for the hell of it
For no particular reason; on a whim: walked home by the old school for the hell of it.
hell on Informal
Damaging or destructive to: Driving in a hilly town is hell on the brakes.
Unpleasant to or painful for.
hell or/and high water
Troubles or difficulties of whatever magnitude: We're staying, come hell or high water.
hell to pay
Great trouble: If we're wrong, there'll be hell to pay.
like hell Informal
Used as an intensive: He ran like hell to catch the bus.
Used to express strong contradiction or refusal: He says he's going along with usLike hell he is!


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[Middle English helle, from Old English. See kel-1 in Indo-European Roots.]
Word History: Hell comes to us directly from Old English hel. Because the Roman Church prevailed in England from an early date, the Romanthat is, Mediterraneanbelief that hell was hot prevailed there too; in Old English hel is a black and fiery place of eternal torment for the damned. But because the Vikings were converted to Christianity centuries after the Anglo-Saxons, the Old Norse hel, from the same source as Old English hel, retained its earlier pagan senses as both a place and a person. As a place, hel is the abode of oathbreakers, other evil persons, and those unlucky enough not to have died in battle. It contrasts sharply with Valhalla, the hall of slain heroes. Unlike the Mediterranean hell, the Old Norse hel is very cold. Hel is also the name of the goddess or giantess who presides in hel, the half blue-black, half white daughter of Loki and the giantess Angrbotha. The Indo-European root behind these Germanic words is *kel-, “to cover, conceal” (so hell is the “concealed place”); it also gives us hall, hole, hollow, and helmet.

compare with

http://www.angelfire.com/journal/ofapoet/hel.html

I rest my case.

MortalWombat

There is no Hebrew word called "hell" or "hel," at least none that mean underworld or grave. The words used in Hebrew which have been translated into English as "hell" in various places are Sheol and Gehenna.

However, Old English and Old Norse were very similar to each other, having come from the same Germanic roots, and Old English having borrowed many words from Old Norse due to the influence of Viking settlers. Many English words in use today, like 'flat', 'kill', and 'odd' are Scandinavian in origin. So I don't know why you are so opposed to the idea that the English word "hell" comes from a Scandinavian/Old English word used for the place of punishment after death.