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Old 02-07-2003, 11:30 AM   #71
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IT IS LOCATED ON THE BACKSIDE
Wait a second have you confused NGC4555 with Uranus?

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We know that DNA is coming from Eta Carina and we consider it responsible for the current genetic revolution.
This is a blatant falsehood. Give me a single citation that states this.

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Consider. Molecular gas is pouring out of Eta Carina at 1 and a half million miles per hour. Molecular gas is DNA.
This is another blatant falsehood.

You need not lecture me on ultraviolet studies of molecules in space. I wrote a dissertation on the subject and continue to do research in this field.

What you are stating are egregious misrepresentations of the facts in a ludicrously haphazard and irresponsible manner.
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2. "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys, an whose emission was like that of horses." Ezekiel 23:20

"She" is the mind. The mind lusts after the lower physical things. The genitals represent life, creation, origins. The geneitals of the lower are brutish and stubborn (donkey). They are the kinds of thoughts that will not follow the higher. They stay where they are.
The emission means the seed that enters "her". Its life is brutish and stubborn but its origin is the horse which is the carrier to heaven. The horse is always used to transport the Gods to heaven, like Pegasus. The heaven however is the mind that is controlled by the stubborn brutish nature. The combination of the two is a person who is very stubborn and brutish but takes charge and directs things from the lower or physicl nature.




3. "Fair Babylon, you destroyer happy those who pay you back the evil you have done us! Happy is he who siezes your babies and dashes them against the rocks." Psalm 137:8-9

Babylon is the lower mind which is filled with attraction to the physical. It is not spiritual at all. To seize the minds babies is to cut off the new thoughts. The ideas and concepts that are born out of the lower mind are considered babies and to dash them against the rocks is to destroy the misguided new thoughts and concepts through the spirit which is steady. The Bible refers to it as the rock of salvation and the old song is called Rock of Ages.




6. "Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it." Malachi 2:3

The lower mind which turns to the physical will suffer from the very things that come out of it. The face is a symbol of intellect and here we see that the dung is spread upon the face. The very things that have come out of the lower mind are used to cover it and thus which it trys to portray as truth is revealed as non truth.
The solemn feasts are the religious ceremonies which are man made. They have no connection with the true light. The bring forth rules and doctrines but this is saying they will be returned to cover the giver with sadness and the mind of the giver will be overwhelmed and taken away by the very lies that it brings forth.


7. "And you shall eat it as barley cakes; and bake it using fuel of
human waste in their sight."Ezekiel 4:12


9. "My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him." Solomon 5:4

10. "You will set fire to their fortified places, kill their young men
with the sword, dash their little children to the ground, and rip open their pregnant women." 2 Kings 8:12

11. "and you shall have a stick with your weapons; and when you sit down outside, you shall dig a hole with it, and turn back and cover up your excrement. Because the LORD your God walks in the midst of your camp, to save you and to give up your enemies before you, therefore your camp must be holy, that he may not see anything indecent among you, and turn away from you." Deut. 23:13-14


13. "If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid."Deuteronomy 21: 18-21

REFUSED good thing you werent living in them days huh.
You might have been stoned. as this stoning was reserved for hardheads.




14. "As he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them" 2 Kg 2:23-24
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This is a blatant falsehood. Give me a single citation that states this.



This is another blatant falsehood.

You need not lecture me on ultraviolet studies of molecules in space. I wrote a dissertation on the subject and continue to do research in this field.

What you are stating are egregious misrepresentations of the facts in a ludicrously haphazard and irresponsible manner.

THE DICTIONARY DEFINES MOLECULAR AS FOLLOWS

Molecular biology, studies nucleic acids and proteins with their role in cell replication and the transmission of genetic information. nucleic acids in the form of DNA and RNA control cellular function and heredity.


you have scientific proof that elements necessary for life on earth including DNA is coming from celestial bodies such as Supernova 1987a, and DNA is coming from Eta Carina.
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THE DICTIONARY DEFINES MOLECULAR AS FOLLOWS

Molecular biology, studies nucleic acids and proteins with their role in cell replication and the transmission of genetic information. nucleic acids in the form of DNA and RNA control cellular function and heredity.


you have scientific proof that elements necessary for life on earth including DNA is coming from celestial bodies such as Supernova 1987a, and DNA is coming from Eta Carina.
Yes, it is true that DNA is a molecule. But when astronomers talk about molecular clouds they are talking about molecular hydrogen and carbon monoxide. Additionally there are other carbon bearing molecular species such as CH, CN, and C2. There may even be more complicated aromatic species contributing to continuum extinction of ultraviolet light.

Of course the elements that are necessary for life exist in outer space. We see carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen and oxygen everywhere we look in the universe. But seeing these elements is not the same as seeing molecular DNA floating about near the star Eta Carina. That is not seen and you are twisting the words of the astronomers to make it seem so.

Just because they use the word molecule does not mean they are talking about DNA. That is a fabrication that you yourself came up with. It is a lie, and if you willfully choose to be ignorant about astronomy, then I can't help you.
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Shadowy Man, you are wasting your time. You are dealing with a person who thinks metaphorically, therefore twisting the meaning of things to form associations that are compelling is what nightwatchman does. The meer existence of the possible association is evidence enough for nightwatchman. There is no reason to take nightwatchman seriously.

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13. "If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid."Deuteronomy 21: 18-21

REFUSED good thing you werent living in them days huh.
You might have been stoned. as this stoning was reserved for hardheads.


Yes, NightWatchman, you are right.. I am rebellious.. especially against ignorance. Something you seem eager to swallow.

I say that with all due respect, however, I've watched you copy and paste for far too long.

Tell me, what affiliation do you have with this hidden answers website you worship?

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nightwatchman - please refrain from advertising your website, or any website, from now on. If you would like to attract traffic to your site and feel the content is worthwhile reading and pertinent to atheist/non-theists, please consider contacting the adminstrators of this site and getting an ad balloon.

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why do we have to be special? There is no higher intelligence that created; it was just an accident. Something exploded a long time ago, and it started a chain that led to our existence. That's it, nothing special.
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Why and how is it you have a small blue ball that happens to be the only planet for miles/kilometers that supports life, and happens to have the right elements?
What you think is an excellent argument for the existence of God is to me an excellent argument against his existence.

Supposing that what you say is true, then it would only mean that the greatest part of our universe is composed of empty space, totally dark and empty.

There is a similar post in the ~elsewhere~ section, and I said there that it is amazing that people can vividly see the beautiful things in this world, and suddenly turn blind to the things that is bad, mad and sad in this world. For every one beautiful thing you can say about the world, any atheist can easily give you ten that is not.

To conclude let me just quote Pascal:

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I wonder at the hardihood with which such persons undertake to talk about god. In a trestise addressed to infidels they begin with a chapter proving existence of god from the works of nature...this only gives their readers grounds for thinking that the proofs of our religion are very weak...It is remarkable that no canonical writer hjas ever used nature to prove god.
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