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WinAce · 02-10-2003, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Vincent_T_05 at RaptureReady:

as for DNA, God created DNA as a way for us to regulate our own bodies. he may have put that centromere remnant on the 23rd chromosome as a simple test of faith: whether or not you believe that God put us here in the first place.

It appears it's too late for some of them.

Doubting Didymus · 02-10-2003, 07:37 PM

Ah, nuts.

Someone better tell scigirl that her challenge just got flushed.

RufusAtticus · 02-10-2003, 08:05 PM

Speaking of Scigirl's challenge, Jerry Smith has done an excellent write up of it here.

Doubting Didymus · 02-10-2003, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by RufusAtticus
Speaking of Scigirl's challenge, Jerry Smith has done an excellent write up of it here.

Who is Robert Williams? His page seems to be scigirls source for her challenge.

scigirl · 02-13-2003, 07:28 AM

Test of faith - mwa hahaha! That's funny. That silly god - making it look like evolution occured to test our faith.

I have a question for creationists - if God made it look like evolution occured (in nearly every place we look) then why do you have a problem if it did occur? If evolutionary theory is useful to predict and explain the evidence (which clearly it is), then so what if A) god did it or B) God make it look like he did it.

Yes I used the evolution evidence page, which in my posts I always gave credit (and linked to). Here it is again:

http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html

My goal, perhaps over spring break, is to re-write up this challenge, and include all the hokey creationist arguments against it, and refute them. Like that one above.

I'm glad this "chromosome challenge" is being used shamelessly all over the place - very nice!

scigirl

simian · 02-13-2003, 08:06 AM

I love these nutjobs. We have one here on campus. His major complaint is that "god" has been taken out of science. God is a necessary part of science. God makes everything happen exactly as it is supposed to. In fact, a universe with his god controlling everything BEHAVES EXACTLY THE SAME AS IF THERE WERE NO GODS. Now why exactly does he feel "god" needs to be pushed into the classroom?

Darwin's Finch · 02-13-2003, 08:23 AM

I sincerely hope this "explanation" of the fused chromosome gains wide currency in creationist circles. Talk about utter capitulation! I'm trying to imagine some cretin actually using this argument with a straight face.

Shameless, stupid fundies! If there really is a god, I must be sure to thank it for so fully providing comic relief.

Non-praying Mantis · 02-13-2003, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by scigirl
My goal, perhaps over spring break, is to re-write up this challenge, and include all the hokey creationist arguments against it, and refute them. Like that one above.

Perhaps you could put it into a tract, and then you'd be all set to hand it out to the public!

Welcome back, I hope your studies are going well.

NPM

Albion · 02-13-2003, 06:04 PM

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he may have put that centromere remnant on the 23rd chromosome as a simple test of faith: whether or not you believe that God put us here in the first place.

Or it was the work of the devil. For every creationist who uses the "Goddidit to test our faith" line, there's usually one who comes up with the "work of the devil" excuse.

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02-10-2003, 07:37 PM	#2
Doubting Didymus Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: East Coast. Australia. Posts: 5,455	Ah, nuts. Someone better tell scigirl that her challenge just got flushed.

02-10-2003, 08:05 PM	#3
RufusAtticus Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NCSU Posts: 5,853	Speaking of Scigirl's challenge, Jerry Smith has done an excellent write up of it here.

02-13-2003, 07:28 AM	#5
scigirl Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,261	Test of faith - mwa hahaha! That's funny. That silly god - making it look like evolution occured to test our faith. I have a question for creationists - if God made it look like evolution occured (in nearly every place we look) then why do you have a problem if it did occur? If evolutionary theory is useful to predict and explain the evidence (which clearly it is), then so what if A) god did it or B) God make it look like he did it. Yes I used the evolution evidence page, which in my posts I always gave credit (and linked to). Here it is again: http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html My goal, perhaps over spring break, is to re-write up this challenge, and include all the hokey creationist arguments against it, and refute them. Like that one above. I'm glad this "chromosome challenge" is being used shamelessly all over the place - very nice! scigirl

02-13-2003, 08:06 AM	#6
simian Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 1,924	I love these nutjobs. We have one here on campus. His major complaint is that "god" has been taken out of science. God is a necessary part of science. God makes everything happen exactly as it is supposed to. In fact, a universe with his god controlling everything BEHAVES EXACTLY THE SAME AS IF THERE WERE NO GODS. Now why exactly does he feel "god" needs to be pushed into the classroom?

02-13-2003, 08:23 AM	#7
Darwin's Finch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Gardnerville, NV Posts: 666	I sincerely hope this "explanation" of the fused chromosome gains wide currency in creationist circles. Talk about utter capitulation! I'm trying to imagine some cretin actually using this argument with a straight face. Shameless, stupid fundies! If there really is a god, I must be sure to thank it for so fully providing comic relief.

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