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View Poll Results: Vengence = A must see?
This will be a great PPV, about damn time! 1 16.67%
I think it has potential, but I have fears. 2 33.33%
Well, it'll be alright. 1 16.67%
Just as bad or worse! than Bad Blood. 2 33.33%
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Old 07-24-2003, 06:39 PM   #1
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Yipes! Much much better prospect than Bad Blood.

Main Event: Angle v Big Show v Lesnar. With Angle in it, this will easily be a classic. This match has size, skill, and power. Big Show

Tag Titles: Haas/Benjamin v Kidman/Mysterio. First match of PPV. Great technical wrestlers verses high flying cruiserweights. Look really forward to that. Haas/Benjamin

US Title: Benoit/Guerreo. This can be the best match of the night, though it will have great company to compete with. Their chemistry is too good for this to bore. Guerreo wins and Benoit takes it at Summerslam.

These three matches alone will make the PPV worth buying, in my opinoin.

Cena v Undertaker. This match has had little buildup in the ring. I actually feel this could be a good match. Don't know who'll win

McMahon v Gowen. If McMahon is in it, well, I don't care. This match can't last too long. I really don't see how Gowen can be a wrestler at this level. He's really good, better than me and he's on one leg, but unless the match is down on the mat, he can't go 5 minutes, unless he has some sort of super human endurance.

Sable v McMahon. Another fluff match. Who cares.

APA Bar brawl. An attempt to get every other wrestler into the PPV. Could be entertaining, certainly better than the pathetic Redneck Triathlon in Bad Blood. Man I wanted to sue WWE for degrading the term triathlon!

Gunn v Noble. This can be a good match. Added late, but Gunn's a veteran and Noble is pretty decent. The longer, the better the match.

I think half the card is very good. Some fluff, but a solid PPV.

Whadya think?
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Old 07-24-2003, 06:43 PM   #2
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I think this PPV needs a heavy dose of Mattitude.

More thoughts tomorrow.
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Old 07-25-2003, 01:54 AM   #3
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Main Event: Angle v Big Show v Lesnar, Calling not only the winner, Angle, but the finish, pinning the big show, to set up summerslam main event, Angle v. Lesnar.

Tag Titles: Haas/Benjamin v Kidman/Mysterio, Haasamin over Kidman and Mysterio, when Kidman walks out on Mysterio to set up a cruiser weight title match at summerslam.

US Title: Benoit/Guerreo. Guerrero has been getting a lot of cheers for a "bad guy", so I predict Benoit because managment doesn't have faith in Guerrero. Although if they do a rematch at SS, I'm hoping for a good gimmick match. Oh, and Guerrero got the last lick in on their feud, so if wwe booking logic holds, benoit wins.

Cena v Undertaker, Undertaker shows his willingness to help the younger members on the roster the same way he did with Angle. Undertaker, although Cena's promo's leading up to this have been gold, especially last night's rap from the middle of a flaming pentagram.

McMahon v Gowen, I don't know. I do know that we'll get to see a good bit of the roster stretching their legs during the match though.

Sable v McMahon, If we get to hear the mad cow bellow, it'll be worth the four-five minutes allotted to it.

APA Bar brawl. Go Doink! Go Brooklyn Brawler, for your first PPV win in the 12 or 13 years you've been with the company!

Gunn v Noble, Noble pulls a million dollar man and bribes the ref for a quick count, and wins.

Hopefully we'll get a seven or eight minute Matt hardy vs. Ultimo Dragon match on heat.
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I'm still not sure why they continue to push Big Slow. Beyond the fact that he is huge, he's got nothing.

Angle vs. Lesnar (round 2) would have been much better. Going by the current plan though, I would say Lesnar will probably pull it off, with Angle making a heel turn.

TWGTT vs. Mysterio/Kidman. There is talk that Kidman is also going to make a heel turn, so I give this one to TWGTT.

Benoit vs. Gurerro. I think Edie is going to pull this one off... depsite trying real hard, most fans have a hard time seeing this guy as a heel.

Cena vs. Taker... Cena's got it. The Big Man is always willing to help out up and comers from what I have seen.

McMahon vs. Gowen - this is just a stupid non-match. Just another way for McMahon to get on tv IMO. I think Zack is going to pull it off somehow.

McMahon vs. Sable - Steph is bootylicious!!! I would love to see her pull it off (along with some various articles of clothing).

APA Bar Brawl - anything with the APA in it is fun to watch.
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Taker has never really helped out the young guys. Every time he works with an up n comer, he basically jobs them out, or if he loses, does it in a way so that he doesn't look bad. He's never really elevated anyone.

John Cena might as well have SUPERSTAR tattooed on his forehead, he's not quite there in the ring, but I think he will be.

The McMahon's on PPV is so ridiculous, and Steph, although I used to find her really attractive, is probably the worst acting pushed performer of the modern era.

They're holding off Angle-Brock II for many good reasons. Big Show isn't really pushed, he's just there at the top to get beat in different ways by Brock and Angle.

Benoit so needs to be a world champion. I'd put him on RAW and have him over on HHH. (of course, HHH would never let that happen)

I might watch the PPV, not sure yet. There's some shit on there but some of it should be really solid if they're given time.

No Spanky or Mattitude though..........that counts against it.
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What is the deal with Spanky? I mean, despite the fact he hasn't been around much. You got a good performer, with charisma, and they nickname him Spanky, which means he is another Spike Dudley, BORING!

And when is Sean O'Haire going to be pushed. This guy could be a legit Heavyweight heel, given time. I mean right now its Lesner, Angle, and Big Show. They need more heels up there. And what about Heyman? I'm glad he isn't announcing anymore, but he's good about the ring. Is McMahon finally going to get over that?

I still think Benoit v Guerreo will be worth the purchase price. Either Benoit or Guerreo will win with a decent fake out job like Guerreo has been doing lately. But I still they'll save Benoit from getting the title until August because its only a month away, so it would be easy enough to continue the conflict. Return match would happen on next Smackdown, Guerreo wins in same fashion. Buildup to Summerslam.

And I think Angle's heel turn is on hold for a while, mainly because if Angle turns heel, that means he faces Lesner, which as has already been said, is probably waiting for the main event in Wrestlemania XX. So that means Big Show has to win, mainly because if Angle or Lesner wins, there is heat between them. How about Angle/Lesner v Haas/Benjamin? That seems logical to keep the heel turn of Angle or Lesner in the distance. Also, they could use Haas/Benjamin fresh off their title defense to interfere and help give Big Show the win.
Then take Undertaker and pit him against Big Show on next Smackdown while Big Show is gloating on having title again, which would be revenge for all that crap a while ago. So Lesner/Angle go after tag titles for revenge from Vengence. Undertaker and Big Show fight for Heavyweight title. That takes you through to Summerslam. What do you think sirs?
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Spanky was his name on the independents. Get some Ring of Honor tapes to see his greatness (I have some, PM me if you're interested).

The official Heyman reason is that he's hurt from so many F-5s. The real reason is that he wants to do things different from the McMahon's. It doesn't help that his ideas actually worked.

O'Haire isn't ready in the ring yet. If he does he's got the superstar push because he's everything Vince likes.

Hopefully Guerrero-Benoit will not have run-ins and will be pure ring work, and given like 16-18 minutes.

I think your SummerSlam booking ideas are a lot better than a lot that I know are being considered.
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I do like your idea of having TWGTT vs. Lesnar/Angle for the belts. I would even like to see Lesnar/Angel win, then feud around a bit with the titles. That would lead nicely to a split, and a heel turn for one of them, thus starting the feud that leads to the return match at WM.
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I do like your idea of having TWGTT vs. Lesnar/Angle for the belts. I would even like to see Lesnar/Angel win, then feud around a bit with the titles. That would lead nicely to a split, and a heel turn for one of them, thus starting the feud that leads to the return match at WM.
Well, its settled then. I'll write the script and send it straight up to McMahon. Oh.... wait a sec. I don't work for them. And McMahon doesn't listen to anyone else, or otherwise that whole Katey Vick thing would never of happened. OY!
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Its going to be a bit different tonight. Instead of watching it on PPV with Directv, I'm getting it online at 300 kbps. I'll be lateraling that signal to my receiver (audio through digital coax and video through rca video), and watching it on my tv. But now it has just occurred to me that the feed may not allow me to full screen it. Uh oh...

Well, what is done is done. If the feed goes directly to the Windows Media player, then I'll be watching a VCD quality version of Vengence at half the price of Digital. More importantly, I'll be able to record it. I wasn't going to buy Vengence, but at half off, what the heck... I'll see how this works.
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