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Old 07-06-2003, 06:31 AM   #1
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Exclamation The Christ Passage in Josephus

I was hunting about in the compact stacks of the university library looking for some material on Philo of Alexandria when I stumbled on this essay by Solomon Zeitlin in The Jewish Quarterly Review (1928). It is currently public domain, so I decided to copy it out at a computer terminal. You can read it here:

http://www.didjesusexist.com/zeitlin.html

Particularly noteworthy is the treatment of the authenticity of the Slavonic Josephus (now, so far as I am aware, the most detailed on the web) and the long-standing argument that Eusebius is the Testimonium's author.

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PS- I will have to go back to the library to get some of the footnotes and appendices.
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Old 07-06-2003, 06:59 AM   #2
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An interesting read, thanks Peter.

However, I have a small request. I like reading the stuff on your website, but it is occasionally hard to read. It often gets hard to follow the flow of the text when it is interrupted by many footnotes. Would it be possible for you to visually separate the footnotes from the main text? I would suggest using a smaller font, a lighter color, or even sidebars.
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An interesting read...I bookmarked it so I can finish it after work.
The Jesus passage in Josephus came up during a discussion in a christian forum when I asked for non-biblical accounts of biblical events. One person was sure that the Josephus passage described everything from the resurrection of dead bodies to the discovery of the empty tomb. When I posted the passage & asked how he came to such a detailed conclusion (from the very short, mostly fradulent text) the topic was quickly changed. Funny thing is, at the same time he cross-posted the exact same passage as I did...which means...that...we both read the same thing...but somehow he believed it verified dozens of christian stories. I never really understood where he was coming from with that.
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Interesting. The picture of Jesus appears to be docetic - not exactly a man. The passion looks like it was influenced by the Gospel of Peter.

Is Eisler public domain by now? There is only a brief Extract from Eisler's work (not much about Slavonic Josephus) on the web.
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Yes, I think that Eisler's book is public domain. "Good Books Scholarly Reprints," from whom you can get a copy, deals in out of copyright works.

http://members.aol.com/goodbooks7/

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Goodbooks lists it here for $49.50, including shipping, and is careful to point to another book:

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Jack, J.J. The Historic Christ. 1933. 284 pp. Refutes Eisler’s strange theory regarding the references to Jesus in Josephus. 1450. $25.
I googled it and found a mention of a copy in the library at CSULB.

So do you think that someone will put the book online? You, perhaps?
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Maybe! But actually I already have about a dozen volumes bought and paid for that I want to put online. Maybe I could get someone interested in doing the work instead! I am keen to provide support and hosting for any transcription projects.

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