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Valentine Pontifex · 07-20-2003, 08:57 AM

Have you ever looked looked at the night sky? Maybe you can ever seen Orion's belt?

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If you have seen Orion's belt you know that it is very notiable
strip of three stars. The belt star that is the farthest to the left is called Alnitak.

According to the YEC's pointman on supernovas, Keith Davies, Alnitak is a supernova!

According to Keith Davies article supernova it is. At the top of article their is a picture of what is claimed to be a supernova. Click here to view a large version of the image.

To see a much better image of the region -- one that is not so over-exposed like the one that Davies gave -- can be viewed here.

This error was pointed out in the book on pseudoastronomy called Bad Astronomy which is the book version of www.badastronomy.com.

For loads of information of supernovas, as well as the fallacies and misquoting of Keith Davies see the following T.O. FAQ and its links:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova/

Coragyps · 07-20-2003, 12:59 PM

From the link:

Quote:

It should be noted that the SNRs in nearby galaxies such as the LMC and M33 are virtually all the same distance away from us, and so we are seeing them all at the same epoch.

So 168,000 years = 2,200,000 years? That must be Cretomath.

Valentine Pontifex · 07-20-2003, 02:26 PM

Quote:

From Keith Davies article
It should be noted that the SNRs in nearby galaxies such as the LMC and M33 are virtually all the same distance away from us, and so we are seeing them all at the same epoch.

Quote:

Originally posted by Coragyps
So 168,000 years = 2,200,000 years? That must be Cretomath.

Actually it is 168,000 = 3,000,000.

You are thinking of the Andromedia Galaxy which is M31.
M33 is the Triangulum galaxy.

So it is even worse.

Coragyps · 07-20-2003, 04:53 PM

Quote:

You are thinking of the Andromedia Galaxy which is M31.

No, I just used an old reference for the distance.

I prefer M33 to M31 - quite a bit more challenge for the naked-eye stargazer.

Valentine Pontifex · 07-25-2003, 05:38 PM

The author of the the T.O. supernova FAQ has made a relevant post to the talk.origins newsgroup replying to some nonsense posted by Sarfati.

Click here to read the reply

Non-praying Mantis · 07-25-2003, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Coragyps
So 168,000 years = 2,200,000 years? That must be Cretomath.

Actually, 168,000 ya and 2.2 mya are in the same epoch...

...the Cenozoic epoch!

NPM

07-20-2003, 08:57 AM	#1
Valentine Pontifex Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orion Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 3,092	The Keith Davies Supernova Have you ever looked looked at the night sky? Maybe you can ever seen Orion's belt? Image Source If you have seen Orion's belt you know that it is very notiable strip of three stars. The belt star that is the farthest to the left is called Alnitak. According to the YEC's pointman on supernovas, Keith Davies, Alnitak is a supernova! According to Keith Davies article supernova it is. At the top of article their is a picture of what is claimed to be a supernova. Click here to view a large version of the image. To see a much better image of the region -- one that is not so over-exposed like the one that Davies gave -- can be viewed here. This error was pointed out in the book on pseudoastronomy called Bad Astronomy which is the book version of www.badastronomy.com. For loads of information of supernovas, as well as the fallacies and misquoting of Keith Davies see the following T.O. FAQ and its links: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova/

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07-25-2003, 05:38 PM	#5
Valentine Pontifex Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orion Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 3,092	The author of the the T.O. supernova FAQ has made a relevant post to the talk.origins newsgroup replying to some nonsense posted by Sarfati. Click here to read the reply

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