Duvenoy

Uh huh. So, if I am to believe this, shallow oceans became what they are today in no more than 4500 years. Right.

If you can tear this down, you'll have a chance at demonstrating it.

http://www.holysmoke.org/cretins/fludmath.htm

Otherwise, I really must ask for proofs of shallow oceans in the time of Genesis. I would also be interested in the depths of those oceans (shallow is as shallow does), what coral formations they might have (in a shallow ocean, there should be a lot of reefs) and whatever else you might come up with on them.

doov

Joe Meert

About this shallow

http://gondwanaresearch.com/oceans.htm

Cheers

Joe Meert

ps418

There is zero evidence for the past existence of a significant subterrannean water source. In general, its not wise to explain one myth in terms of another.

Common sense and physics tell us that the atmosphere could not possibly hold enough water to raise global sea level significantly.

And the claim that the ocean floor was more shallow 4500 years ago than it is today -- is correct! There has been a glacio-eustatic sea-level rise since 2500BCE of about 8 meters or so. About 20,000 years ago, global sea level was about 130 meters lower than it is today. And 125,000 years ago, sea level was about 3 meters higher than it is today.


Patrick

Spenser

LOL!!!! I find it difficult to even attempt to take you serious. Not only is your unsubstantiated assertion absurd, it would require that all the more water be introduced into the equation to take a 'lower' sea level and raise to the height of the highest mountains. Fissures? Are you suggesting the water was inside the earth prior to this flood, like under the mantle? And yet still, the atmospheric problem would remain not to mention the rate at which the water came down (now increased by you) would wash away the mountains entirely. You account for nothing but your own stubbornness. If you make assertions, back them up. Otherwise I'll treat them as the joke they appear to be...

Duvenoy

Thanks, Joe and well done. I don't have the math to understand the finer points, but I got the gist of it. Found it fascinating.

doov

Mageth

Originally posted by Magus55
Its called water coming from fissures in the ocean floor as well as the rain, with the ocean floor not being as deep as it is now.

Preposterous. Bald assertions with absolutely no evidence to back them up.

It seems to me that, as all that water (and you're talking about a huge amount of water) came from underneath the oceans, that the ocean floor would sink (or collapse) to fill the void left by the water...meaning the land wouldn't flood.

Coragyps

Not to mention that, for every 1000 feet deeper you go, your water, and rock, gets about 15 degrees F hotter .... 25 degrees C per kilometer for you non-US-oilfield folk. How well does gopher wood insulate again?

Arken

I am not a fundie, but if I were, here's how I would explain it. This sounds better than flood waters carving out mountains-

Joshua stopped the earth from spinning-

That caused gigantic earthquakes, made all the continents smash together and stuff and made the big mountains!

And, of course, people's faith in God kept them stuck to the earth.

gravitybow

Yes, and flowering plants must have been especially fast since even the simplest angiosperm managed to run as high as the Cretaceous layer before succumbing to the flood.

Arken

These people believe that God created plants before he created the sun (see Genesis 1)... so I'm sure they wouldn't mind a little thing like that.