Freethought & Rationalism Archive

excreationist · 08-21-2003, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Secular Pinoy
Does Hotmail have pop3 access?

I don't know... but you can access it as a http server from programs such as outlook express. (So you can treat it in Windows as if it is a normal pop3 account)

Quote:

I haven't really checked out my hotmail account recently, it gets too much spam.

Yeah... I get about 20 bits of spam a day...

Quote:

My Yahoo account receives far fewer ones, so it's ok. There was free pop3 access, but they started charging people for it ($ 19+ a year I think) over a year ago.

Yeah I've heard about yahoo being better as far as spam goes - I think they automatically filter out emails that have been sent to lots of users. It's a pity they charge for it now...

sakrilege · 08-21-2003, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by excreationist
Yeah I've heard about yahoo being better as far as spam goes - I think they automatically filter out emails that have been sent to lots of users. It's a pity they charge for it now...

I have Yahoo and get very little spam and what I do get they make it easy to report and filter. To be clear, the Yahoo account itself is free, being able to POP it is what the charge is for. I access it thru my web browser.

Secular Pinoy · 08-21-2003, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by excreationist
I don't know... but you can access it as a http server from programs such as outlook express. (So you can treat it in Windows as if it is a normal pop3 account)

Is that like viewing a webpage through MS Outlook (it's basically like using IE inside Outlook)? Or is it like pop3 (where you can send/receive the messages straight to and from the server without going through a web browser), but with a different protocol? I don't use Outlook Express.

excreationist · 08-21-2003, 05:51 AM

sakrilege:
Yeah, I thought so...

Quote:

Originally posted by Secular Pinoy
Is that like viewing a webpage through MS Outlook (it's basically like using IE inside Outlook)? Or is it like pop3 (where you can send/receive the messages straight to and from the server without going through a web browser), but with a different protocol? I don't use Outlook Express.

The second one - it's just a different protocol. It has a folder called "hotmail" rather than it being in "local folders". I move my messages from hotmail into the local folder every now and then because hotmail deletes my messages after a couple of months. I've actually got two hotmail account folders there - I call the other one "Hotmail 2". The second address is really obscure and I try not to let potential spammers know about it. If hotmail is your default account in outlook then when you click on a mailto link in internet explorer it brings up a new email thing with hotmail as the sending address.

fried beef sandwich · 08-21-2003, 08:24 AM

whatever you do, do NOT click on the thank_you.pif file... .pif files run scripts, and well, just don't. bad idea.

Loren Pechtel · 08-21-2003, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Secular Pinoy
Does Hotmail have pop3 access? I haven't really checked out my hotmail account recently, it gets too much spam. My Yahoo account receives far fewer ones, so it's ok. There was free pop3 access, but they started charging people for it ($ 19+ a year I think) over a year ago.

Download Hotmail Popper. It gives you free pop3 access to a hotmail account. You can't send with it and it does not count as logging in for the inactivity timer--if it's *ALL* you use you'll find your account deleted for inactivity.

Kevin Dorner · 08-21-2003, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fried beef sandwich
whatever you do, do NOT click on the thank_you.pif file... .pif files run scripts, and well, just don't. bad idea.

Some of these things take advantage of a well-known exploit in Outlook (Express) and will execute merely by reading the message or previewing it. Basically, if you have off-the-shelf Outlook and no antivirus installed or on your mail proxy, you'll get infected eventually.

I have received over 70 emails from it today (none get through as I run NAV and update it daily) on my own machine, and the most I ever saw from SirCam and the first SoBig was about 10. It's being called the worst, fastest-spreading internet worm ever.

Symantec's page on it

If you think you might be infected (and you should check this no matter what if you don't use antivirus software) in Windows XP/2000/NT, just hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete, click Task Manager, then Processes and look for a process called Winppr32.exe. If it is there, you are infected. Get the removal tool from the Symantec page (free) and follow the directions.

JonathanChance · 08-21-2003, 10:29 PM

Well, it seems that the failed delivery messages have stopped.

One question: Will I still be punished for using 13375p34k in my previous post? If so, what is the punishment?

Darwin26 · 08-21-2003, 11:37 PM

Jonathan, i had 2 of those yesterday. But since last week i'm only opening mail in the preview pane. lots of junk last 2 days but i delete it without opening...
Also i have god view all my e-mails and he's told me that i'm clean as a virgin. Prayer is helpful in stopping the E-mail terrorists. A Crusifix on your monitor lets Jesis know you are saved and not to mess with your E-mail ...no Daemons! Also:

it helps to have NORTON check things out before cod does and a Fire Wall to boot... like i do

i get lots of attacks, average one a day. SoBig came by twice and BugBear but otherwise the rest are 32klez.

Darwin26 · 08-21-2003, 11:53 PM

just after my last post by maybe a min... dbl Deamon Mailers with virus attached ... thank you Norton for intercepting ! Cod missed again

ughOOOO SpagettiOOoos here comes another

very similar

failure notice: ahhhhhhh shucks...

i do the shift/delete in paneview and it never gets opened just gone

Oh my Cod ...i edited out the Mailer addy cause i saw it was a live link Geeeeeeeeze and i didn't really try to do it exact...it reformed itself Wow scarry ... i hate these hackers.

08-21-2003, 11:37 PM	#19
Darwin26 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Encino, CA Posts: 806	E-mail Terrorists Jonathan, i had 2 of those yesterday. But since last week i'm only opening mail in the preview pane. lots of junk last 2 days but i delete it without opening... Also i have god view all my e-mails and he's told me that i'm clean as a virgin. Prayer is helpful in stopping the E-mail terrorists. A Crusifix on your monitor lets Jesis know you are saved and not to mess with your E-mail ...no Daemons! Also: it helps to have NORTON check things out before cod does and a Fire Wall to boot... like i do i get lots of attacks, average one a day. SoBig came by twice and BugBear but otherwise the rest are 32klez.

08-21-2003, 11:53 PM	#20
Darwin26 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Encino, CA Posts: 806	speaking of the devil just after my last post by maybe a min... dbl Deamon Mailers with virus attached ... thank you Norton for intercepting ! Cod missed again ughOOOO SpagettiOOoos here comes another very similar failure notice: ahhhhhhh shucks... i do the shift/delete in paneview and it never gets opened just gone Oh my Cod ...i edited out the Mailer addy cause i saw it was a live link Geeeeeeeeze and i didn't really try to do it exact...it reformed itself Wow scarry ... i hate these hackers.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

08-21-2003, 08:24 AM	#15
fried beef sandwich Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 1,156	whatever you do, do NOT click on the thank_you.pif file... .pif files run scripts, and well, just don't. bad idea.

08-21-2003, 10:29 PM	#18
JonathanChance Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Stevens Point, WI Posts: 538	Well, it seems that the failed delivery messages have stopped. One question: Will I still be punished for using 13375p34k in my previous post? If so, what is the punishment?

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.