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Talon · 03-28-2003, 11:27 AM

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"These deliveries pose a direct threat to the lives of coalition forces. We consider such trafficking as hostile acts and will hold the Syrian government accountable for such shipments," Rumsfeld said at a Pentagon briefing.

Rusmfeld also warned that armed supporters of Iran's government entering Iraq would be considered enemy combatants if they interfere with U.S. forces there.

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The more this guy opens his mouth, the more shit get stirred up. It'll be decades before an American can safely set foot anywhere in the Arab world.

TALON

Mark · 03-28-2003, 11:30 AM

Ah, thank god for democracy...while it's still here...

happyboy · 03-28-2003, 11:43 AM

ahhhh, rumsfeld....bet he's proud of his work to initiate world war 3.

happyboy, eagerly anticipating the launching of the nukes

Ice · 03-28-2003, 11:51 AM

I think this might be relevant here...

http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/ira...79850,00.html?

Grumpy · 03-28-2003, 01:09 PM

Hell, just yesterday a friend of mine said, "You know, Syria's next."

I said, "Sure they'd like to, but they can't. They've got no justification."

Well, here ya go.

Athius · 03-28-2003, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Talon
THE STORY

The more this guy opens his mouth, the more shit get stirred up. It'll be decades before an American can safely set foot anywhere in the Arab world.

TALON

I agree with you, and just for the record, Iran is not an Arab country.

Mageth · 03-28-2003, 01:31 PM

I was also bothered by Rumsfeld's statement yesterday that "There will be no ceasefire!" It's not too wise to paint yourself in such a corner, Rumsfeld.

Warwick · 03-28-2003, 01:34 PM

I am so sad to lose such a good friend in Syria; it even saddens me more than North Korea.

Mr. Superbad · 03-28-2003, 01:34 PM

Maybe we should blow up another one of their buses, they don't seem to have gotten the message.

Hubble head · 03-28-2003, 02:04 PM

War is 100% unpredictable. Especially when you stack the deck during your staged wargames to whatever situation you hope to find. I've learned more than a few times after I shot my mouth off here and got spanked by a few replies or the reality of how things actually unfold that things just cannot be predicted in war more than a few days and even that's a crap shoot.

Rummy should be using more caution with his words but what would he know-he's never seen the reality of war from a soldier's POV so I really wonder what the hell he's doing up there. Just reading books a soldier does not one make.

Those most opposed (besides the Arabs) to this still have people in power who remember the horrors of WW2 from their own eyes -France, Germany and Russia. Combined they lost 10's of millions of lives. The most outspoken, Russia, (also in the 90's Iraq's #1 weapons supplier) lost the most from combat.

That being said-current unfolding situations leave me to believe we are about to impose a lockdown on all travel between cities by civilians and so called civilians. I see no other way as it looks like Iraqi fighters are moving around as civilians and then picking up weapons once they get to a new city. This could be the new 120,000 reinforcements job. How the Iraqi's respond to that (if it happens) will not be known for another week or so. Our popularity will hit another low if it is carried out. Then whole cities like Basra and Baghdad may have to be locked down with tight curfews and with anyone on the streets from 4pm to 10 am or so accused/shot of being the enemy.

That's my "armchair opinion" today anyway.

peeyz owt

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03-28-2003, 11:30 AM	#2
Mark Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,537	Ah, thank god for democracy...while it's still here...

03-28-2003, 11:43 AM	#3
happyboy Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: on the border between here and there, WV Posts: 373	ahhhh, rumsfeld....bet he's proud of his work to initiate world war 3. happyboy, eagerly anticipating the launching of the nukes

03-28-2003, 11:51 AM	#4
Ice Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 206	I think this might be relevant here... http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/ira...79850,00.html?

03-28-2003, 01:09 PM	#5
Grumpy Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,535	Hell, just yesterday a friend of mine said, "You know, Syria's next." I said, "Sure they'd like to, but they can't. They've got no justification." Well, here ya go.

03-28-2003, 01:31 PM	#7
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	I was also bothered by Rumsfeld's statement yesterday that "There will be no ceasefire!" It's not too wise to paint yourself in such a corner, Rumsfeld.

03-28-2003, 01:34 PM	#8
Warwick Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MA, USA Posts: 77	I am so sad to lose such a good friend in Syria; it even saddens me more than North Korea.

03-28-2003, 01:34 PM	#9
Mr. Superbad Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Well fortified mountain bunker Posts: 3,567	Maybe we should blow up another one of their buses, they don't seem to have gotten the message.

03-28-2003, 02:04 PM	#10
Hubble head Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Corn rows Posts: 4,570	War is 100% unpredictable. Especially when you stack the deck during your staged wargames to whatever situation you hope to find. I've learned more than a few times after I shot my mouth off here and got spanked by a few replies or the reality of how things actually unfold that things just cannot be predicted in war more than a few days and even that's a crap shoot. Rummy should be using more caution with his words but what would he know-he's never seen the reality of war from a soldier's POV so I really wonder what the hell he's doing up there. Just reading books a soldier does not one make. Those most opposed (besides the Arabs) to this still have people in power who remember the horrors of WW2 from their own eyes -France, Germany and Russia. Combined they lost 10's of millions of lives. The most outspoken, Russia, (also in the 90's Iraq's #1 weapons supplier) lost the most from combat. That being said-current unfolding situations leave me to believe we are about to impose a lockdown on all travel between cities by civilians and so called civilians. I see no other way as it looks like Iraqi fighters are moving around as civilians and then picking up weapons once they get to a new city. This could be the new 120,000 reinforcements job. How the Iraqi's respond to that (if it happens) will not be known for another week or so. Our popularity will hit another low if it is carried out. Then whole cities like Basra and Baghdad may have to be locked down with tight curfews and with anyone on the streets from 4pm to 10 am or so accused/shot of being the enemy. That's my "armchair opinion" today anyway. peeyz owt

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