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Old 04-21-2003, 10:52 PM   #41
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Whaa? Which UFO's? How can you be certain?
I apologize if I am making this out to be a doctrine. I am merely proposing an idea, which, I am sure, would be more interesting to fellow Christians than atheists who disbelieve in demons. If you read my previous post you can see I do not hold this view strongly, though it is interesting to those who have studied some "end times" theology.

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Oh please. This reminds me of Kent Hovinds statement that it's a possibility that Satan uses a UFO as fast travel because he can't compete withgod being omnipresent.
Oh Lordy! I hereby claim no connection with any of Kent Hovind's original ideas. Never heard that one before . Why does this sound ridiculous to you (or is it only the fact that you don't believe in demons)?
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:26 PM   #42
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I was debugging a program the other day...I felt that I *should* have noticed that detail earlier.
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Seebs, you *should* have known?
Trust me, Frood. Thinking he should have noticed it earlier is not a big guilt-ridden reaction or anything. I've been known to actually start yelling at my screen after a few hours of (attempted) debugging. ("Segfault?! Segfault?! There's not a pointer in that function; how could there be a #*@#& segfault?!")
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Frood, I know it wasn't a spicy burrito. I don't get heartburn because I don't eat things that make me sick. Those things include anything spicy, shellfish, any form of peppers, and tomatoes. It was a definite feeling of utter dread.
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Old 04-22-2003, 07:29 AM   #44
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I apologize if I am making this out to be a doctrine. I am merely proposing an idea, which, I am sure, would be more interesting to fellow Christians than atheists who disbelieve in demons. If you read my previous post you can see I do not hold this view strongly, though it is interesting to those who have studied some "end times" theology.
You asserted this idea in your previous post by saying, point blank that: UFOs are illusions put on by demons. As a fellow Christian, I am interested in this--but probably not any more than the atheists here as to how people come to believe this.

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You asserted this idea in your previous post by saying, point blank that: UFOs are illusions put on by demons. As a fellow Christian, I am interested in this--but probably not any more than the atheists here as to how people come to believe this.
If you will read my 1st post in this thread (this is my fourth), you will see I was only proposing the idea. It is annoying to have to put a "According to this idea..." before every sentence, so I was playing the role of an advocate of the idea when I said "UFOs are illusions put on by demons." What I said in my original post was

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One personal theory is that UFOs (the residual UFOs; the ones with no easy physical explanation, assuming there are any) are the result of demonic activity and will be an excuse for the millions gone during the rapture. Just a possibility (from a xian perspective).
Sorry, I am new to posting, so I amn't always coherent. I was responding to Bree's comment, understanding that she read the post preceding it.

Anyway, what is your view on demonic activity? Do you believe that UFO's could be the result of demons, or are they a hoax, or truly extraterrestrials?
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I think that most of the time, there is a natural explanation for most events and occurrences.

In your role as "advocate" for the UFO's are evidence of demonic activity, how would you support this idea and how do you see it fitting in to end times theology?

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This is what I want to say to Christians;
WHEN THE RAPTURE COMES, CAN I HAVE YOUR CAR, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS A MERCEDES BENZ COMPRESSOR - CUTE LITTLE HATCHBACK??? THANK YOU.
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There's a bumper sticker for that at evolvefish.
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Old 04-23-2003, 10:46 PM   #49
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think that most of the time, there is a natural explanation for most events and occurrences.
In your role as "advocate" for the UFO's are evidence of demonic activity, how would you support this idea and how do you see it fitting in to end times theology?
I agree that there is a natural explanation for most events. Some reasons why RUFOs (residual UFOs, those unaccounted for by physical means after investigation) could be the result of demonic activity...

1. RUFOs are observed to seemingly break laws of physics in their movement. They decelerate very rapidly, move at high speeds without sound, and seem to appear and disappear randomly.

2. RUFOs seem to follow human technology in their appearances. In the late 19th century, RUFOs were often reported as "cigar-shaped, lighter-than-air machines driven by motors attached to propellers" (from "Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men"). In the late 1940s and 50s, UFOs moved to flying saucers. This is definite proof of nothing, but would make sense if it were demonic activity.

3. RUFOs cause physical and psychological harm to people.

4. RUFOs have spawned a number of cults, ex. Brotherhood of the Seven Rays, Mission Planetary Outreach, Star Light Fellowship, Ashtar Command, the Cosmic Circle of Fellowship.

These are some of the basic arguments for demons being the source of RUFO phenomena. I took most of this from "Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men" a book by Hugh Ross and Ken Samples, from Reasons To Believe. It's an interesting read for the lay-UFOlogist.
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