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Old 09-05-2002, 12:10 PM   #11
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From the link provided:

Amazon.com Sales Rank: 896,758

It's in the top million!

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<strong>I didn't have to buy my creationist book. Ask any Jehovah's Witness for their book How did we get Here, By Evolution or Creation? They'll give it away for free, if you don't mind taking their Awake and The Watchtower Tracts as well.</strong>
Oh, I've read that one. That was quite a while ago though.

The creationist book I'd like to read when I get a chance is The Creation Hypothesis, edited by J.P. Moreland. Preferably from a library.
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Thank you! My first response on reading this thread was, "You're giving those bastards money??!?!?"</strong>
I don't really worry about the money part. I mean it not going to be spent on research or anything like that. And Ken Ham could use a new beard trimmer from what I've been told.



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Isn't that one online?</strong>
Indeedy. Here is the<a href="http://www.parentcompany.com/handy_dandy/hdertoc.htm" target="_blank">HDER</a>

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handy dandy evolution refuter??

hahahaha...sounds like something you'd see on an infomercial:

"Get all the creation 'knowledge' you need in the Handy Dandy Evolution Refuter! Overthrow the last 150 years of biological knowledge for only $19.99! Act now, and we'll throw in 'If Evolution is True, Why Are There Still Apes?' for only $5.99! All this can be yours today!

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{edited to fix the long line, so it's easier to read this thread! sci}

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Old 09-06-2002, 01:54 PM   #16
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didn't have to buy my creationist book. Ask any Jehovah's Witness for their book How did we get Here, By Evolution or Creation? They'll give it away for free, if you don't mind taking their Awake and The Watchtower Tracts as well.
Yes, that book is indeed a good piece of creationist propaganda. And it's free .

Even more luck. This month, the book that JW's will be making a special effort to place with the public is none other than the Creation book. The book naturally has many silly arguments that a rudimentary evolution science background can answer (like they ask why are apes alive, but the "superior ape men" linking apes and humans all dead). However, even more insidious, they liberally misquote many sources (and use suspect sources...and misquote those!).

So if you really want to have fun, if a JW comes by this month, accept their book and say you'll read it and have them agree to come back and "talk about it" (for best effects, pretend to be an evolutionist who's "open" or "questioning", they'll probably feel they can get you on the return visit). Then visit <a href="http://www.aetheronline.com/mario/Heretic/critical.htm" target="_blank">this site</a>, which is an extremely comprehensive review of the errors in the book (written by a person who was then a JW). When the JW comes back, confront them with the info (say you researched it ). You'll probably scare them away for a while to come .
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