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Proxima Centauri · 12-18-2002, 10:23 AM

Lets get back to the topic. Here's yet another example of a priest convicted of child mosestation. Criminal Cardinal Bernard Law failed to prevent it yet again.
The case is explained by <a href="http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/geoghan/" target="_blank">The Boston Globe</a>.

Proxima Centauri · 12-18-2002, 10:30 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Gemma Therese:

Quote:

Originally posted by B.Shack:
[QB]Yes there are some good Roman Catholics.

B. Shack actually said this?? Put it in the record books!

Gemma Therese

Yes, the <a href="http://www.votf.org/Press/pressrelease/1213.html" target="_blank">Voice of the Faithful</a> look to me like good people although they are Roman Catholics. Most of them are almost certainly well motivated.

[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: B.Shack ]

Mageth · 12-18-2002, 10:36 AM

You said there was nothing "lovable" about the Catholic Church.

Well, it could be true that there is nothing lovable about the RC Church, yet there still could be some RCs that do good things, no?

I posted pictures of some "loving" Roman Catholics, including Maximilian Kolbe, who gave his life for Jews during WWII, and that is a digression??

And what did Pope Pius XII do for the holocaust victims, pray tell?

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Barracks/2911/b/hitlerpope.html" target="_blank">Hitler's Pope</a>

If you want, we could post some nice photos of Catholic Priests, Bishops, etc. posing with Nazis:

Proxima Centauri · 12-18-2002, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemma Therese:


You said there was nothing "lovable" about the Catholic Church.

Gemma Therese

I said, "The trouble is we can only see faults and cannot see anything lovable about that corrupt church." You misquoted me.
There are some good things in the RC Church. These things are hard to see among all the shit.

Proxima Centauri · 12-18-2002, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemma Therese:


You really dislike me, don't you?

Gemma Therese

You set out to make us dislike you, don't you?

Proxima Centauri · 12-18-2002, 10:46 AM

Modre about <a href="http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/pius.html" target="_blank">Hitler's Pope</a>.
The shit just carries on.

Godless Dave · 12-18-2002, 11:00 AM

It wasn't just Pius. While Maximilian Kolbe was giving his life to save Jews from the Holocaust, thousands of other Catholics (and Protestants too) were herding Jews into gas chambers.

Gemma Therese · 12-18-2002, 11:03 AM

<a href="http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2000/06-19-2000/vo16no13_catholic.htm" target="_blank">http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2000/06-19-2000/vo16no13_catholic.htm</a>

Cornwell's work has been deemed unscholarly at best; I'm surprised you find him an authority.

Gemma Therese

Gemma Therese · 12-18-2002, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Godless Dave:
It wasn't just Pius. While Maximilian Kolbe was giving his life to save Jews from the Holocaust, thousands of other Catholics (and Protestants too) were herding Jews into gas chambers.

Or dying themselves. Read up on your history.

Gemma Therese

[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: Gemma Therese ]

Mageth · 12-18-2002, 11:12 AM

Cornwell's work has been deemed unscholarly at best; I'm surprised you find him an authority.

The article you posted only briefly mentions Cornwell's book. And I don't put any stock in an article from The New American. Sheesh.

Besides, this isn't the only book detailing the controversy. Check out the bibliography at the bottom of the page B. Shack posted.

[ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: Mageth ]

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Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Cornwell's work has been deemed unscholarly at best; I'm surprised you find him an authority. The article you posted only briefly mentions Cornwell's book. And I don't put any stock in an article from The New American. Sheesh. Besides, this isn't the only book detailing the controversy. Check out the bibliography at the bottom of the page B. Shack posted. [ December 18, 2002: Message edited by: Mageth ]</p>

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12-18-2002, 10:23 AM	#81
Proxima Centauri Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: England, the EU. Posts: 2,403	Lets get back to the topic. Here's yet another example of a priest convicted of child mosestation. Criminal Cardinal Bernard Law failed to prevent it yet again. The case is explained by <a href="http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/geoghan/" target="_blank">The Boston Globe</a>.

12-18-2002, 10:36 AM	#83
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	You said there was nothing "lovable" about the Catholic Church. Well, it could be true that there is nothing lovable about the RC Church, yet there still could be some RCs that do good things, no? I posted pictures of some "loving" Roman Catholics, including Maximilian Kolbe, who gave his life for Jews during WWII, and that is a digression?? And what did Pope Pius XII do for the holocaust victims, pray tell? <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Barracks/2911/b/hitlerpope.html" target="_blank">Hitler's Pope</a> If you want, we could post some nice photos of Catholic Priests, Bishops, etc. posing with Nazis:

12-18-2002, 10:46 AM	#86
Proxima Centauri Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: England, the EU. Posts: 2,403	Modre about <a href="http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/pius.html" target="_blank">Hitler's Pope</a>. The shit just carries on.

12-18-2002, 11:00 AM	#87
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	It wasn't just Pius. While Maximilian Kolbe was giving his life to save Jews from the Holocaust, thousands of other Catholics (and Protestants too) were herding Jews into gas chambers.

12-18-2002, 11:03 AM	#88
Gemma Therese Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: new york Posts: 608	<a href="http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2000/06-19-2000/vo16no13_catholic.htm" target="_blank">http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2000/06-19-2000/vo16no13_catholic.htm</a> Cornwell's work has been deemed unscholarly at best; I'm surprised you find him an authority. Gemma Therese

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