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Old 07-23-2002, 03:38 AM   #1
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I notice that no mention is made of the adverse effects of Christianity on the environment. This is one of the worst examples of PC if you ask me. The sooner the media stops turning a blind eye the better. I know it’s a sensitive subject in America, but facts are facts and have to be addressed.

The Antarctic icecap is shrinking at an alarming rate, and every year the hole in the ozone layer in that region gets bigger and bigger. If we’re not careful in a few years the entire planet will be covered in frigid water and displaced penguins with skin cancer.

Forget deforestation and fossil fuels. There is no doubt in my mind that both these phenomena are directly attributable to Jesus, and his insistence on holding the whole world in his hands. I appreciate his efforts to avoid population centres, but it’s about time Christians faced up to their responsibilities for the sake of future generations and stopped encouraging him, or at least get him to wear some proper gloves. It’s our planet too you know.

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How does Jesus cause you to leave the tap on when you’re brushing your teeth? Jesus told me to go out and by a Ford Excursion!? Jesus told me not to recycle?

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How does Jesus cause you to leave the tap on when you’re brushing your teeth?
Because this world is unimportant compared to an eternity in Heaven.

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Jesus told me to go out and by a Ford Excursion!?
This world is unimportant compared to an eternity in Heaven. Why worry about pollution or the suffering that results from the struggle for control of the world's oil reserves, when eternal bliss awaits?

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Jesus told me not to recycle?
This world is unimportant compared to an eternity in Heaven. Why worry about recycling when eternal bliss awaits?

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Oh, come now, maybe some of the more fundamentalist-oriented Christians would have the "who cares because we are going to a better place soon and Jesus will take care of the world anyway" attitude, but there are defiantly Christians out there who are pro-environment. One big stereotype trying to lump all Christians into the former position isn't going to help the environment; its just going to alienate people.

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BN is surely right to take these things as seriously as he does.
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Old 07-23-2002, 12:21 PM   #6
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Just to clue those in who don't know, Boro Nut is a comedian who refuses to confine himself to the Humor forum. Sometimes he gets a good zinger in but it's best not to take his posts seriously if you read them at all.

Kind Bud made some valid points, but only some Christians interpret doctrine that way. Actually I think for most conservative Christians it goes like this "Recycling is new; my parents never cared about recycling; new is bad; old is good; environmentalism must be some commie atheist initiative".

But for some it goes "If more people are environmentally conscious it will cut into profits from our oil/plastic/automobile/disposable diaper business. Better use my money and influence to convince the impressionable fundies I share a political party with that environmentalism evil."
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Um, let's see...Yahweh starts by giving man dominion over the planet. Then Yahweh drastically alters the environment with the flood, and the plagues. Then the idea that this world is nothing compared to heaven. Apocalypse effectively says that Yahweh's going to destroy the planet anyway, so who gives a d@mn, no pun intended?

About the only pro-environment story in the Bible is the Tower of Bab-El, and that's more a warning against man's hubris in general. And Babylon is a favorite villain, anyway.

However, there are more Earth-sensitive Xian sects; most of them are about stewardship.
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I must say that the love from Jesus’s hands as the cause for global warming would be one of the more controversial theories raised here. Boro Nut, genius or dangerously radical bozo ? (BTW, nice work BN )

But to pick up on one detail, Antarctica actually has 200,000 km2 MORE ice than 20 years ago, to my understanding (couple of New Scientist issues ago).

Of course somehow that’s still evidence of global warming.
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"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."
--James Watt (Secretary of the Interior under Reagan)

"I am struck by the fact that the other party took thousands of words to make up its platform and left out three simple letters, G-O-D"
--George Bush, 1992

The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible,without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc.
--Jerry Falwell, Finding Inner Peace and Strength

"My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns.
--James Watt, The Washington Post, May 24, 1981

So I dunno if Boro Nut is being all that funny. Never underestimate the Christian Dominionists, I say.
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Old 07-24-2002, 08:31 AM   #10
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None of those people are Jesus telling me to leave the tap on! I was expecting quotes from the Bible--you know "And one day, in a garden, while brushing his teeth from the miraculous tap He had made, Jesus spoke and said 'Running the water from this "tap" for no other means than to see it fall to the ground, glorifies my Father and makes way for the Kingdom of God." But, hey, I'm not a literalist, so then I'd have to ponder the real truth behind this statement anyway.

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