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Gotoz · 07-06-2002, 02:26 AM

Dear fellows.. Just to start ... how about a glance to this religion called (Islam)?

Is what we hear about it true?

Please look at the following site and let me know if it has enough to answer your questions.

<a href="http://sultan.org/" target="_blank">http://sultan.org/</a>

Thanks a lot for your valuable times you spend in checking this site.

Best regards...

Gotoz

liquid · 07-06-2002, 04:44 AM

What are we meant to be hearing about it?

never been there · 07-06-2002, 07:52 PM

I've found that in Muslim apologetics the discussions intended for other believers are of higher intellectual quality than the arguments presented to potential converts, which are more of the "because I/The Quran said so". This seems strange, as it is the opposite of the general trend I've seen in Christianity.

However, apologetics in any faith ends up as an exercise in circular logic. And Wahabism has as much in common with decent Muslims as Fred Phelps with decent Christians.

Gotoz · 07-07-2002, 12:04 AM

Liquid, thanks for your reply
It is happiness that we meant to look for.
Humanbeing can't be happy if he/she did not know why he/she is created; as the Creator is the one who has the power to make us happy or unhappy.

Never been there, thank you also for reply
Maybe you are right, when Muslims talk to a Muslim they talk to a person who is already beliefs of the Holy Quran, so if they tell him that The God "ALLAH" said, he must accept it.

One more thing: what do you know about Wahabism?

Regards

Gotoz

Anunnaki · 07-07-2002, 12:23 AM

Gotoz didn`t read or understand anything that either of you guys said. And whats with this:

Quote:

how about a glance to this religion called (Islam)?
Is what we hear about it true?

What a salesman!

Gotoz · 07-07-2002, 02:40 AM

Anunnaki;

Thank u for raisining the post to the top of the page.

Panta Pei · 07-07-2002, 02:43 AM

"u"

Hrmmmmm.....

My raisining has kicked in my spider-sense on this one

Triple Six · 07-07-2002, 02:54 AM

The link leads to the usual absolute garbage we can expect from a religion persisting from a more savage era. A comical link titled "Science leads to Islam" caught my fancy as a good source of stupidity and it didn't let me down with a long winded "proof" of how the quran and the "Dirak" (sic) theory on electrons are compatible

Gotoz, I had my glance and I'm not impressed. Why don't you now give facts and the real world a chance and check out some of the links you'll find on this site.

HelenM · 07-07-2002, 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by Gotoz:
<strong>Please look at the following site and let me know if it has enough to answer your questions.</strong>

No offense, but, I didn't have any questions about Islam.

I especially was put off by the last Muslim who came by here and wouldn't stop e-mailing insults to me...

But, not to completely blame it on him. I doubt I would have had questions anyway. Like I told him, as far as I'm concerned, anything I don't like about Christianity is worse in Islam so...there's no way I'd ever convert to Islam.

love
Helen

Bree · 07-07-2002, 06:05 AM

Proselytizing for a religion is bad enough - but proselytizing for a poorly done website? Blasphemy.

RRP.

07-06-2002, 02:26 AM	#1
Gotoz Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 7	Start up ... something about Islam .... Dear fellows.. Just to start ... how about a glance to this religion called (Islam)? Is what we hear about it true? Please look at the following site and let me know if it has enough to answer your questions. <a href="http://sultan.org/" target="_blank">http://sultan.org/</a> Thanks a lot for your valuable times you spend in checking this site. Best regards... Gotoz

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07-06-2002, 04:44 AM	#2
liquid Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,440	What are we meant to be hearing about it?

07-06-2002, 07:52 PM	#3
never been there Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 2,144	I've found that in Muslim apologetics the discussions intended for other believers are of higher intellectual quality than the arguments presented to potential converts, which are more of the "because I/The Quran said so". This seems strange, as it is the opposite of the general trend I've seen in Christianity. However, apologetics in any faith ends up as an exercise in circular logic. And Wahabism has as much in common with decent Muslims as Fred Phelps with decent Christians.

07-07-2002, 12:04 AM	#4
Gotoz Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 7	Liquid, thanks for your reply It is happiness that we meant to look for. Humanbeing can't be happy if he/she did not know why he/she is created; as the Creator is the one who has the power to make us happy or unhappy. Never been there, thank you also for reply Maybe you are right, when Muslims talk to a Muslim they talk to a person who is already beliefs of the Holy Quran, so if they tell him that The God "ALLAH" said, he must accept it. One more thing: what do you know about Wahabism? Regards Gotoz

07-07-2002, 02:40 AM	#6
Gotoz Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 7	Anunnaki; Thank u for raisining the post to the top of the page.

07-07-2002, 02:43 AM	#7
Panta Pei Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in the middle of things Posts: 722	"u" Hrmmmmm..... My raisining has kicked in my spider-sense on this one

07-07-2002, 02:54 AM	#8
Triple Six Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: formerly Lae, Papua New Guinea Posts: 1,867	The link leads to the usual absolute garbage we can expect from a religion persisting from a more savage era. A comical link titled "Science leads to Islam" caught my fancy as a good source of stupidity and it didn't let me down with a long winded "proof" of how the quran and the "Dirak" (sic) theory on electrons are compatible Gotoz, I had my glance and I'm not impressed. Why don't you now give facts and the real world a chance and check out some of the links you'll find on this site.

07-07-2002, 06:05 AM	#10
Bree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Twin Cities, USA Posts: 3,197	Proselytizing for a religion is bad enough - but proselytizing for a poorly done website? Blasphemy. RRP.

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