mark9950

That there is God the father,God the son(Jesus Christ) and God the holy spirit.

These three are distinct individuals that are in the Godhead according to christianity.

The hebrew word for God is elohim not (elowah which refers to only one) and uniplural which means more than one.

Saying that we can say that the trinity and God is really three distinct individual gods.

Some people say that the trinity is some mysterious concept that cannot be explained.

It can be explained that God(elohim, not elowah) is basically a God of the many gods or a family of gods which is really polytheistic.

Abraham lived where there was worship of polytheistic gods,Aabraham was influenced with the belief of a polytheistic gods which he called his god in the monotheistic form.

In summary there are three gods,the father,son and holy spirit are three gods of the polytheistic (not monotheistic) God who is supposed to be the creator of the flat earth and sky dome which is hard as a molten mirror.

Koyaanisqatsi

Be ready for the "water" analogy fallacy.

Volker.Doormann

The Trinity of Christianity is a hoax. A son of a father without a mother is a hoax as well as a son of a virgin is a hoax.

Trinity has its origins in the Indian Vedas, as the trinity of the i.) creation (symbolized as Brahma), ii.) Preservation (symbolized as Vishnu), and iii.) Distortion and recreation (symbolized as Shiva). In general these trinity exhibits in both forms of sex. From this are also symbolized the female symbols of trinity as Sarasvati, Parvati or Kali.

This trinity includes the three states of physical life, as it is for woman’s the young state of a virgin, the preserving state as a mother to preserve (physical) life, and the old wise witch woman, who knows all inclusive the distortion and dark aspects of physical life.

This trinity is also used as symbols for long in astrology as i.) cardinal, ii.) fixed, and iii.) mutable, with the very same meaning, known by all astrologers in all times and also in India, the home of this trinity symbol. There are four cardinal signs, four fixed signs, and four mutable signs in the zodiac.

As a mistaken from Manu, who has misunderstood the holiness of woman’s in this three states of creation, preserving, and distortion and recreation as job where men do suppress the freedom (also sexual freedom) of woman, he has written a codex, in that woman’s was defined as of no spiritual value, with the consequence, that this stupid ideas of men where adopted by the Semites (the codex of Manu is called the ‘Manu-Smriti’ doormann.org/manuslaw.txt ) in Mesopotamia some 4000 years ago by Hammurabi doormann.org/hammur.htm and consorts, who’s laws are preserved in the Christian Bible as the mosaic laws (‘An eye for an eye’).

The hide of the true virgin, the mother and goddess since Manu in the religious and social life has created next to the crime against woman's, this nonsense of Christian 'Trinity' with a father and a son, but without any mother. In some catholic writings it is spoken from ‘a father, who has born ..’, which may show this ignorance of truth and stupid nonsense.

That Semites got their social laws from Manu’s law from India is preserved by the story of a_Brahm (from Brahm_a) and Sara (from Sara_svati) in the Pentateuch, which is full of dubious sexuality aspects.

I think there are not many people aware about this background of understandable Trinity in Hinduism and in the abrahamic religions of Judaism, Islam and Christianity. What is a holy ghost? It is a hoax. A woman, which is a virgin, which is a mother, which is a witch or a concubine is not a hoax; a woman is always holy, disregarding of religions or that, what men told, to preserve their social power claim (see Iran, see India, see Rom, see 'fundamental' Islam, see all the secular world).

The holiness of woman’s are preserved the entire world by individuals, but not by the religions. Christianity has rejected woman’s by their Trinity nonsense and Islam do worship preislamic vedic Yoni rituals in Mecca knowing nothing about the meaning of their rituals doormann.org/the0.htm and doormann.org/the4.htm .

Each social/religious claim of men that do not respect the holiness and freedom of woman’s as individuals is a spiritual crime, and a claim in the physical secular world, in that the strongest man is the ruler, master, and king, and all others are slaves.

From this one can recognize, that all religions do not respect spirituality, but are slaves of the laws of the social world with its power laws, whether the earth is flat or not.

Volker

Spaz

Sometimes Volker makes sense and sometimes he's just really weird, this time he kinda makes sense

net2002

The christians do worship 3 gods.If each were as powerful as the other then how the fuck can you say 3 powers are in one? Take this e.g. if the father creates a rock does he need the help of the son, or the spirit to help create the rock? can the father create it himself? if yes then this means the son and the spirit can take a hyke.The same goes for the spirit and the son if they were to make something do they need the help of each other? what if they one day thought of challenging each other?christians {epithet removed by moderator} are all 100 percent pagans who pay lip service to monethism but can not reject your inner desire of worshiping more then 1 god.You all are pagan at heart.

Volker.Doormann

It is never the person, that has any meaning; it is ever the own insight, which has a meaning, or the lack of an own insight, which creates the illusion of weirdness in a remote person. To worship persons, or to reject persons is alike as to worship gurus, girls or gods or to reject gurus, girls or gods: useless work. There is no need to create authorities or to discredit authorities; there is only a reality to understand and to differ from unreality. The creation of authorities by the own mind does create dubious religions, the discrediting of authorities by the own mind does create war. There is no need for a busy mind; only a still mind has the ability for an insight in that, what is. No problem is solved, if a god is rejected or a god is worshiped. No problem is solved if a person is rejected or a person is worshiped. Still only recycled bytes in a f***ing mind of many recycled bytes, without any relation to a spiritual order - as usual in a 'religious' discussion forum.

Infidelettante

Thank you Volker, for all those who are aware thank you, and blessings to you and yours'.

JT:notworthy

River

Hindu Trinity: Brahma (Creator), Vishnu (Sustainter), Shiva (Destroyer)

Xtian Trinity : Father (G-d) , Son, Holy Spirit ( Gabriel).


The Athanasius creed of Trinity was a later developement.

Magus55

Gabriel is not the Holy Spirit of the Trinity. Gabriel is an Archangel.

mark9950

Than who is the holy spirit of the trinity?