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Old 04-07-2003, 10:19 PM   #611
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Clear your cookies and click on email the staff, it should work if your using OE.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I like CF, I like apologetics I like playing in the arcade, and I like the people there for the most part, I don't see any reason to complain anymore over here, if your not a Christian then I would just stay away if you feel unwelcome there. And for those of you liberals, I don't see what you have to complain about, if you stray from biblical doctrine to the point of it being distorted, then what can the staff do?

They have rules and they have to go by them. Your on their playing field.

This may have been a good venting thread for y'all, but I have to say that CF is my favorite place to hang out. IIDB has some good science and other forums, but I am more in tune with CF.
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Old 04-07-2003, 10:28 PM   #613
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. And for those of you liberals, I don't see what you have to complain about, if you stray from biblical doctrine to the point of it being distorted, then what can the staff do?
Everyone does. they just demand political correctness about it, that's all. It's not right and it's not Christian.

It would be so much better if they let the movie run unedited like God does.
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Old 04-07-2003, 10:33 PM   #614
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No...but you are!!...
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Old 04-07-2003, 10:33 PM   #615
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Would you like me to?


No, the tone of your post gave me the impression you would be no longer posting on this thead.

Mea culpa.
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Old 04-07-2003, 11:19 PM   #616
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Would you like me to?

No, I don't want anyone to leave, I am the oddball here being a fundamentalist Christian, if anything, I would be the one leaving this thread.

I know people are getting their feelings hurt because of this thread. That's all I'm going to say.

The thing is, is that I really think CF is fair considering it's format (Christian Forums was established as a free, non-profit and non-denominational online Christian community to unite Christians of every denomination together as one body), they do allow apologetic and non believer debate to flourish pretty well, and allow the posts to push the boundries of their set rules considering how and why it was founded.

I have seen here that some of our gay friends feel that they are Christian and have been informed not to post in the Christian ONLY sections, well that's because traditional and fundamental (basic) biblical interpretations of doctrine are considered to be truth and are seen as condemning homosexual acts. Almost all Christian denominations believe this.

People openly admitting they are gay and performing gay acts yet confess to be a Christian are not considered Christians in the traditional sense. At least that would be my speculation on why the gay people have been told to stay out of The Christian Only forums.

I have seen some heated debates allow to flourish in the appropriate forums over at CF.

I would just let this place be this place and CF be that place and respect it for what it is as defined by it's mission statement.

If any of you are truly Christian it would be the Christian thing to do by following the CF rules.

I'm sorry, that's the way I see it, and I would expect no less here at II, or at any board that has a set of rules that are always being tested to their limits.

It's true I feel like an outcasted fundie, but hey, so be it. However my first priority is God and family, and I cannot be a fence rider, what started out here as folly has caused a burden to be put on me and I can't in good conscience support the "CF is totally unfair" mindset, because in reality the intended mission for that forum and it's rules have been established and should be respected.

Human's run it, Christian humans, and even if they make mistakes, there is other recourse other than gossiping and complaining behind their backs, especially if it hurting some people's feelings.

Now don't mind me, if you feel like being infidels and want to blast whatever you like, don't let me stand in your way, this is just something I think I needed to say in defense of CF.

And at the same time I would say that this board is professionally run given it's format.
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Please excuse my typing, I sliced two of my fingers opened with a fillet knife last night. Its sucks trying to type with two less fingers.

I like CF. I'm getting annoyed and close to depressed by the Literal -vs- Liberal debate though.
But I was not surprised by the reaction to my statements on the apologetics thread. (I forget the name of the thread)
I can't just go along with the party line. Not if it seems wrong to me. And if it means a few people stop considering me a Christian...that's fine.

Almost missed this from your post, Badfish.

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If any of us? That says it all.
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Almost missed this from your post, Badfish.

If any of us? That says it all.
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Well that wasn't what I meant, as obviously most of the people in this thread are not Christian. I keep forgetting that :banghead:

What I should have said is:

If any of you are truly "sincere" then it would be the fair thing to do by following the CF rules and respecting the decisions, and if you feel you were wronged, then take it up with the appropriate staff member (The Staff Heirarchy is posted in Suggestions I believe).

Sorry, I keep forgetting most are not Christian. However there is enough intelligence here to conclude that good logic and reason would still be followed concerning CF rules and decisions.

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OK now, will anyone here that has badmouthed CF on the radio please stand up?

Seriously, that's quite a change in your own approach here in this thread, Sean. If you are having second thoughts, and would like to change the tone of your participation in this here thread, then I can understand that, but you don't need to prove your goodwill to them by putting us in our place. No-one here in this thread has treated you as a fundie-outcast, BTW. If anything, you have raised that yourself, and needlessly so. As far as I'm concerned you are not an outsider now, though I'm a little bugged by the sybol routine.

I generally like CF as well. And they have generally tried to be fair in the past. But there has been a recent trend in moderation that makes it difficult to trust their decisions lately. It has become rather pointless to talk with the moderators about their decisions, and it seems clear that there was a general decision to purge the site. The only place I can currently find Evangelian, Lynn, and Sauron is here (still haven't found Havoc or AtheistArchon). Here, we can talk publically about the decisions made over there. On CF, we have to PM each other, and some of us do't get the news. It often feels like divide and conquer. This thread has been a real eye-opener for me, and a welcome chance to speak with people I thought were out of my net-life for good. It should come as no surprise that along with everything else, we'd indulge in some griping.

I think every one of us has made an effort to comply - with occassional exceptions - with the rules over there, and there are genuine questions about whether or not some of the moderators have been fair. Push comes to shove, we have to lump it if we don't like the final decision. So be it, but if people over there don't like our griping, then they can lump it, same as we do.

…I will try to refrain from further comments about Roy.
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Have you spoken to Erwin about this? Maybe there needs to be a medium in which those who feel have been treated unfairly can go to, to really have a bad situation looked at and evaluated.

I believe with the population and the nature of CF, they need more mods, that way there would be less hasty decisions and more focus on maintaining justice.

More mods would lighten the load and allow the staff to more thoroughly observe and evaluate a situation. If in fact this is the case, which I am really not in a position to evaluate.

I wonder how many staff members are here at IIDB.

I wonder if the very nature of a Christian board demands more moderation due to the amount of controversial subjects.
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