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Thieving Magpie · 02-04-2003, 04:55 PM

Let's hear what you have to say.

Mageth · 02-04-2003, 05:03 PM

You left off "Polls are valuable, informative and interesting."

Thieving Magpie · 02-04-2003, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mageth
You left off "Polls are valuable, informative and interesting."

Haha.. oops.

Well, you know, they only give you ten options.

Infinity Lover · 02-05-2003, 01:28 PM

Ooh; tough pick, but I chose one. What did I win?

Thieving Magpie · 02-05-2003, 05:04 PM

Well, not my respect..

You know it's interesting how many people think that me being stupid and pointless is less likely than anything else I put up as an option.

They must really, truly love me.

Gurdur · 02-05-2003, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Thieving Magpie
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You know it's interesting how many people think that me being stupid and pointless is less likely than anything else I put up as an option.

They must really, truly love me.

You specified that option as regarding the poll as being pointless first ----- and it's quite reasonable to regard it as such.

Why are you personalizing it ?

crocodile deathroll · 02-05-2003, 10:24 PM

God exists!!

This would have to be the most outlandish claim that has ever been made

Psycho Economist · 02-06-2003, 10:11 AM

I voted on "having faith is natural, even necessary". Many of them are wrong, some are silly... but this one is actually propagated in professional circles as "spiritual wellness" crap.

There is no reason to say "a good relationship with God / the Force / the Great Pumpkin / CrystalLite Power is necessary for your health", except as it pertains to emotional well being, (e.g. guilt over literally not practicing what you preach) and strongly implies that atheism is intrinsically "unhealthy". It's not; atheists are generally self-selected, and people who aren't happy as atheists either adjust or go back to religion.

Mr. Sammi · 02-06-2003, 12:14 PM

THIS NEEDS A BELIEF TO START - Giving someone else the benefit of the doubt regarding their beliefs is more important then anything one might believe

THIS seems OK - This is stupid, and pointless - as is Thieving Magpie for posting this.

THIS is BAD - All living things are inherently rational creatures, including those who are insane, or retarded.

The thought of GOD existnig is not as outlandish as some may think,,, It may be just that people have a false biased unclear outlandish definition of GOD,,, Especially the omnipotent and omniscent factors which some give to GOD, but forget the power of the implied INTELLIGENCE of GOD. There would be a direct dichotomy between some highly intellectual superior thinking GOD, and some simple powers which this .GOD should have to produce. I find the arguments ridiculus seeing humans believe so much in their limited intelligence....

Sammi Na Boodie ()

Thieving Magpie · 02-06-2003, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by Gurdur
Why are you personalizing it ?

I'm not, actually. I included the last option as a sort of joke, but I don't know how many actually realized it as such.

Asking the question: What concept seems the most outlandish?
And then answering it with: 'This is stupid, and pointless - as is Thieving Magpie for posting this.' Implies that the concept that this is stupid and pointless is the MOST OUTLANDISH thing mentioned, in the opinion of the person who picked it. Really, I would not expect anyone to pick that option if they did, in fact, understand the question - instead they were fooled by their own inability to reason... which is ironic because of all the other options. Irony = funny (well, sometimes, anyway).

View Poll Results: What concept seems the most outlandish?
Logic can only be proved by itself, and therefore employs circular reasoning.	5	9.62%
Having faith is not only natural, but essential and unavoidable for a living person.	8	15.38%
Every theory concieved, and believed in by a person is acceptable to live by, though not all are equal in merit.	6	11.54%
Giving someone else the benefit of the doubt regarding their beliefs is more important then anything one might believe.	1	1.92%
Philosophically, it is better to prove someone right, than to prove them wrong.	1	1.92%
The method is as important as the conclusion.	1	1.92%
All living things are inherently rational creatures, including those who are insane, or retarded.	7	13.46%
God exists.	11	21.15%
Science is completely trustworthy, because logic is infallible.	5	9.62%
This is stupid, and pointless - as is Thieving Magpie for posting this.	7	13.46%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

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02-04-2003, 05:03 PM	#2
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	You left off "Polls are valuable, informative and interesting."

02-05-2003, 01:28 PM	#4
Infinity Lover Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,047	Ooh; tough pick, but I chose one. What did I win?

02-05-2003, 05:04 PM	#5
Thieving Magpie Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 253	Well, not my respect.. You know it's interesting how many people think that me being stupid and pointless is less likely than anything else I put up as an option. They must really, truly love me.

02-05-2003, 10:24 PM	#7
crocodile deathroll Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Darwin Posts: 1,466	God exists!! This would have to be the most outlandish claim that has ever been made

02-06-2003, 10:11 AM	#8
Psycho Economist Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 854	I voted on "having faith is natural, even necessary". Many of them are wrong, some are silly... but this one is actually propagated in professional circles as "spiritual wellness" crap. There is no reason to say "a good relationship with God / the Force / the Great Pumpkin / CrystalLite Power is necessary for your health", except as it pertains to emotional well being, (e.g. guilt over literally not practicing what you preach) and strongly implies that atheism is intrinsically "unhealthy". It's not; atheists are generally self-selected, and people who aren't happy as atheists either adjust or go back to religion.

02-06-2003, 12:14 PM	#9
Mr. Sammi Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montr�al Posts: 367	THIS NEEDS A BELIEF TO START - Giving someone else the benefit of the doubt regarding their beliefs is more important then anything one might believe THIS seems OK - This is stupid, and pointless - as is Thieving Magpie for posting this. THIS is BAD - All living things are inherently rational creatures, including those who are insane, or retarded. The thought of GOD existnig is not as outlandish as some may think,,, It may be just that people have a false biased unclear outlandish definition of GOD,,, Especially the omnipotent and omniscent factors which some give to GOD, but forget the power of the implied INTELLIGENCE of GOD. There would be a direct dichotomy between some highly intellectual superior thinking GOD, and some simple powers which this .GOD should have to produce. I find the arguments ridiculus seeing humans believe so much in their limited intelligence.... Sammi Na Boodie ()

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