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S2Focus · 03-06-2002, 10:39 PM

...he runs a serious risk of hurting himself!

Check out <a href="http://www.creationweb.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c8713c71521ffff;act=ST;f=26;t=409 ;st=15" target="_blank">http://www.creationweb.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c8713c71521ffff;act=ST;f=26;t=4 09;st=15</a> and scroll down to jep's first post on the page.

If you go through jep's math, you'll find out that he doesn't know the difference between the "exp" key and the "x^y" key on a scientific calculator! And that's not the worst (or best, depending on your point of view) of it! Just follow the thread through, and watch poor ol' jep dig himself even deeper.

This is serious "beverage-through-the-nose" material, folks. Check it out.

(It's stuff like this that keeps me returning to these C/E fora.)

[ March 06, 2002: Message edited by: S2Focus ]</p>

Deimos · 03-07-2002, 05:19 AM

Thanks for that, S2Focus. I was in need of a laugh and that sure hit the spot

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pangloss · 03-10-2002, 08:51 AM

Jep is probably one of the most egomaniacal ignoramuses I have ever come across, even for a creationist.

See our 'debate' (I post as huxter there):

<a href="http://www.creationweb.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c8b99f40673ffff;act=ST;f=30;t=5" target="_blank">http://www.creationweb.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c8b99f40673ffff;act=ST;f=30;t=5</a>

He does not even know what the abstract of a scientific paper is!

BLoggins02 · 03-10-2002, 09:00 AM

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first figure out how many sequences of 6 billion a,t,c,g's will amount to anything out of 4^6,000,000,000 (possibilities).

Ack!! Do the words "cumulative selection" not have any meaning to these people? <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ · 03-10-2002, 09:45 AM

Hey, since you people post there (I think), and I don't really want to start another message board, take my dice collection as counter-proof.
I can roll all of my various dice (about 400, with less than half being 6 sided), and get 1 chance in 3.6*10^304 as the probability of the result. Not close to that, right? But I can roll my dice collection in about 10 minutes, So, taking 6 hours of my time, I can force a result of (3.6*10^304)^36--a number FAR greater than 4^6000000000. This is 6 hours of time--compare to several hundred years for smaller odds.

Creationists should NEVER use probability. I can always, always, trump their sorry asses with my dice.

Undercurrent · 03-10-2002, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by S2Focus:
<strong>If you go through jep's math, you'll find out that he doesn't know the difference between the "exp" key and the "x^y" key on a scientific calculator! </strong>

I've taught first-year math students who make the same mistake.

m.

03-06-2002, 10:39 PM	#1
S2Focus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 1162 easy freeway minutes from the new ICR in TX Posts: 896	When a creationist tries to use a scientific calculator... ...he runs a serious risk of hurting himself! Check out <a href="http://www.creationweb.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c8713c71521ffff;act=ST;f=26;t=409 ;st=15" target="_blank">http://www.creationweb.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c8713c71521ffff;act=ST;f=26;t=4 09;st=15</a> and scroll down to jep's first post on the page. If you go through jep's math, you'll find out that he doesn't know the difference between the "exp" key and the "x^y" key on a scientific calculator! And that's not the worst (or best, depending on your point of view) of it! Just follow the thread through, and watch poor ol' jep dig himself even deeper. This is serious "beverage-through-the-nose" material, folks. Check it out. (It's stuff like this that keeps me returning to these C/E fora.) [ March 06, 2002: Message edited by: S2Focus ]</p>

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03-07-2002, 05:19 AM	#2
Deimos Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 97	Thanks for that, S2Focus. I was in need of a laugh and that sure hit the spot .

03-10-2002, 08:51 AM	#3
pangloss Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,302	Jep is probably one of the most egomaniacal ignoramuses I have ever come across, even for a creationist. See our 'debate' (I post as huxter there): <a href="http://www.creationweb.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c8b99f40673ffff;act=ST;f=30;t=5" target="_blank">http://www.creationweb.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c8b99f40673ffff;act=ST;f=30;t=5</a> He does not even know what the abstract of a scientific paper is!

03-10-2002, 09:45 AM	#5
Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Heaven Posts: 6,980	Hey, since you people post there (I think), and I don't really want to start another message board, take my dice collection as counter-proof. I can roll all of my various dice (about 400, with less than half being 6 sided), and get 1 chance in 3.610^304 as the probability of the result. Not close to that, right? But I can roll my dice collection in about 10 minutes, So, taking 6 hours of my time, I can force a result of (3.610^304)^36--a number FAR greater than 4^6000000000. This is 6 hours of time--compare to several hundred years for smaller odds. Creationists should NEVER use probability. I can always, always, trump their sorry asses with my dice.

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