Godless Dave

For the same reason we are, because they don't want to be accountable to God for their immoral behavior. You need to spend more time in GRD, Scigirl.

I never had anything close to a "religious" experience on LSD or any other hallucinogen. I saw demons cavorting in my walls once but I don't remember it feeling particularly profound.

MadKally

I never did either Dave. One day for about 10 seconds I thought I understood the secrets of the universe and then I forgot and started laughing about something else. My legs kept getting longer and then shorter. My face used to hurt the next day from laughing and smiling so much. All in all good experiences as long as I followed my rules. Always outdoors and always in the daylight. Never experienced anything profound at all, but colors sure were prettier. No spiritual experiences or religious ones or any other kind. Perhaps because I'm an atheist.

Bring on the magnets!

Kally

ps418

For many people, "seeing demons" would itself be a "religious experience." But in general LSD is not a vision-inducing drug, certainly not at the low doses most people take. Tracers, lights, breathing walls, sure, but visions, generally not. They do happen occasionally though (Grof, S., 1986. LSD Psychotherapy).

Mushrooms, on the other hand, were much more pleasant, and consistently yielded true, detailed visions at high doses. By this I mean not merely breathing walls and enhanced colors, but full-fledged religious iconography and landscapes, blinding lights, travelling through tunnels that look like intricately-detailed mandalas, a sense of unity with everyone and everything, and so on. I do not know how much those experiences were created by my expectations. I deeply wanted to have an experience like that (I had read Huxley's "Doors of Perception"). I doubt I would have the same experiences today. But I have no doubt that an epistemologically-naive person would have described those experiences as "seing god" or trvalling to heaven or whatever.

Patrick