Starboy

I don't know about Gemma, but Amos has never claimed or demonstrated that he takes anything literally let alone the bible. Have no fear of Amos taking anything literally. Perhaps that explains his constant good nature.

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Bible Humper

Muahaha! You bastard!

I bet you're feeling real guilty about enjoying the sun and sand of Florida while we're double layering up here!

Beaches full of Latinas, no less! I'm gonna wipe my ass with your damn letter to Santa, how do you like that!

Bible Humper

Hehe, Amos is indeed one of a kind, and I am one of his fans. But you see, he apparently didn't like any of the bible as it was written! Way too simplistic, apparently!

I have to wonder, though, with the particular imagery he uses, if he wouldn't perhaps find one of Jung's books a more likely candidate for "word of God" than the Bibble!

atheist_in_foxhole

Beautiful! <img src="graemlins/notworthy.gif" border="0" alt="[Not Worthy]" />

thebeave

Yeah,good point, Amos... I was just thinking the exact same thing!

Starboy

I have been trying to crack the Amos code. I hope he doesn't mind my discussing him. I know it is bad netiquette but I mean no harm or disrespect by it. So far all I have is vague notions. He has called himself a Zen-Catholic in the past and his pattern of writing does reflect the use of words in a sort of Ying-Yang pattern of metaphor. He also likes to use common words in uncommon ways such as science and omniscience; by this he means knowing and all knowing. He also takes common words and uses them metaphorically, such as “natural selection” meaning that nature is conscious and making a choice. I don't know why he does this, because it is obviously confusing to people who use the more common meanings of those words. He does this constantly. You can decode his writings but you have to spend a good deal of time with sources that list archaic usage of words. His bible of choice is NAB, which he claims is the least literal of bibles. I am still up in the air as to whether he is completely mad or just mischievous, probably a little of both. As far as I can tell he is not here to convince anyone of anything. For that I thank him and place him high on my list of “good” Christians.

Amos if any of this has offended you, I do apologize. Let me know and I shall never do it again.

Starboy

Buffman

B.H.

Muahaha! You bastard!

Yeah! I know!

It was chilly here today. It barely got up to 72°F. For you mathematically challenged types up near the Pole, that's approximately 22°C.---I don't really care what you do with my letter. However, I would caution you not to wipe your ass with it and then blow your nose.

Foxhole

Thank you! I have had the good fortune to have some great discussions with Jesuits. They knew religious philosophy...and how to present it. Of course after 2,000 years of practice, one would expect them to know the differences between fact and fiction. That they evidently don't also echoes down the halls of reason like thunder from Thor's hammer.

Amos

No offense at all and I have no secret code. It is just a perspective and in that I am not unique. The Catholic Church is full of it and maybe you have just seen what I did with the advent wreath (Ark of naos). To me this is absolutly beautiful that I can share in this vision and the whole Church is filled with such inspirations. Nothing and nothing about it is secular.

It may be wrong to decifer my posts. I think it would be better if you could grasp the concept I have in mind because that way you could read all things for yourselves. Better yet, you might want to lead the Maria procession at Lourdes.

Amos

But life is so much simpler if you look at it from my perspective. I like it all and if it does not make sense at the time I just let it go by. The bible does not ow me anything nor do I owe the bible anything. It is just a tool that can be both beneficial and harmful.

Buffman

Amos

I do not recall our having had many, if any, discussions. After reading your last two posts, I have to wonder if you are of the opinion that human beings are not truly complete unless they come into a measure of harmony with something you might label "spirituality?"

That is how I would currently interpret your statement regarding the Bible as a beneficial or harmful tool. However, I wish you to know that I have no confidence in the word "evil" as a descriptive adjective. Bad, painful, or harmful, yes! Evil, no!