Hero

I found the two characters in bible are very problematic, the Satan and the Judas who betrayed Jesus.
For Judas, why did the priests need to give him money in order to make him to point out jesus in front of the soldier? Everyone at the scene should be able to recognize Jesus as he was so famous. Also the death of Judas was a myth. In Mathews. it was stated Judas at last hang himself and his money was taken by the priest. But in Act, it was stated Judas used the money to buy a land and suddenly he was killed by the god and his guts bursted out of his body.
For Satan, some Christian claimed that it was originally an angel and one day it wanted to be as powerful as god, so that he was thrown to hell. Satan was so clever, it is not possible that Satan doesn't know about the power of god and itself was no match with the God. Also, why anything including both Satan and Man created by the God carried sin? The only possible answer is that God is also sinful so that all his images carried sin.

malookiemaloo

I think Judas was paid because it would look good from the priests' point of view if one of Jesus's own was seen to turn against Him.

The death of Judas is difficult-never really studied it in detail but I suppose he could have bought a field, hung himself from a tree in the field then his guts burst out.

It would appear that Satan was a very high ranking angel-perhaps the highest. I do not think satan was that clever. He was only a creature therefore could not see into the mind of God. He could not have really understood that he was no match for God in the same way that he never thought for a moment that Jesus could rise from the dead.

The origin of sin is a more difficult subject-debated many times here. But what actually is it? Is it a 'thing' at all? If I make a hole in the mona lisa a perfect picture is marred. But by what? A hole is nothing!!

One thing is clear. God did not creatre sin-indeed He cannot. (Just one of the many things He cannot do like create a stone so heavy He cannot lift, create a greater god, destroy Himself etc etc.)

Anywaty, it's Friday afternoon here and I'm off home.


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Vinnie

I lack belief in Satan.

Judas may have been historically a close follower of Jesus who betrayed him and consequently killed himself. We simply cannot reconstruct how he died or many, if any exact details.

I do not see views where Judas is created and represents the Jews as being tenable (e.g. Spong). Many exegetes would probably use embarrassment and multiple attestation to secure Judas a spot in history.

Vinnie

MortalWombat

Deep down you really do believe, but you would rather live your life as if you didn't want to be accountable to him. Either that or something bad happened in your life, and you blame him for it and then claim to be an asatanist. The fool says in his heart there is no Satan.

Sci_Fidelity

That is not at all clear. Where are you getting this? Scripture clearly states that god created evil, and I think you will agree that sin is evil. Don't you even know your own book of mythology?

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Vinnie

a fool I doth be

Vinnie

Vinnie

Probably enough to have seen a little exegesis regarding "evil" in that passage. It is clear that God cannot create moral ethical evil. That is an "action" that is performed. It is not created anymore than God can create run. Running is something you do. Evil in the sense of disaster or calamity, well the interventionist God of supernatural Christian theism is certainly the creator of "evil" in that limited sense. The version of God described by pananetheism as well. Pressure gradient force is one example.

Vinnie

Sci_Fidelity

Popycock. He would have had to create the ability to do evil, and the existential meaning thereof.

Vinnie

Thats the idea of free will. The risk was worth the creation. It was the greater good.

Vinnie

Sci_Fidelity

Then stop denying it.