tgamble

That site has all the intelligence and honesty of a Kent Hovind seminar. The sheer amout of bullshit, lies, distortions and fabrications is beyond belief.

James

I know.

You gotta remember us Brits take longer to catch up with all these modern trends. The 'Fossil Feet Boots' is a new 'argument' to me.

Darn! Must be a real stumper for all those biologists out there

The Feduccia thing - blow it - don't worry about it, I was being to pedantic again, sorry.

beausoleil

I'm sorry, but you're clearly a bit unfamiliar and out of date with the literature. The scale objection was of course raised almost immediately, and as I recollect a number of counter-explanations were put forward - the rods were fragments of bacteria, dessication, and the identification of larger 'fossils' were each reported at various meetings.

Even so, the original paper put forward life as the simplest explanation for four separate lines of evidence, only one of which was the shape of the supposed fossils. Of these, association with allegedly biogenic magnetite grains is still put forward quite vigourously by the proponents. Of course the media latched onto the supposed "fossils".

I'm not convinced personally, but the proposal cannot be dismissed as trivially as you suggest.

beausoleil

This bit is absolutely hilarious.

<a href="http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/Asteroidsa2.html#1049138" target="_blank">http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/Asteroidsa2.html#1049138</a>

ashibaka

I guess somebody punched a hole in the firmament!

Danish

All of those questions are very very easy to ask, but take a lot of education to answer.

Coragyps

Geek that I am, ol' Walt's site is one of my favorite comedy spots anywhere on the web. Browsing around there, you can find out that parts of the "pillars" supporting the 10-mile-deep, one-mile-thick water chamber (before the Flood, remember) melted to metallic iron and nickel, which then got launched as our present-day meteorites.
Fine. Now this molten iron/nickel alloy was in water. The same water that became most of Noah's flood. It's already over 700 degrees F ten miles down, molten iron is more like 3000 degrees and reacts violently and exothermically with water, and gopher wood isn't the same thing as asbestos, is it???

Pop_Quiz

The Mitochondrial Eveists (out-of-Africa theorists) put the date in 1987 (Science, vol. 325, pg 31-36)for her existence at 120-150,000 years ago after an initial estimate of up to 290,000 years ago, based on their supposed rates of mutation. But since these are based on wide-ranging estimates and more closely matching chimpanzees than known human rates, that age may even be wrong. Does anyone know what the rate of sequence divergence is in humans and chimps?
I'm personally for multiregionalism anyway, and don't buy the idea of a headline-grabbing "Eve".

But isn't that what makes real science so much fun? We'd get nowhere if everybody agreed all the time.

Pop_Quiz

Nice boots! I guess by "fossil" they mean my chicken wing bones are also fossils by the time they hit the dumpster.

And I see they include Neanderthal in their list of "past mistakes". Just what mistake are they implying? A relative of homo sapiens? Sure, we did misjudge the fossil record to that extent but since DNA has shown them to be unrelated to us, they serve no purpose in human evolution. But since we have Neanderthal DNA to analyze, just what is the creationist's take on them? They are a fact just as much as T-rex and woolly mammoths.