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Monkeybot · 05-05-2003, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by keyser_soze
Did he kill your sister in an accident or by cold blood? If it was on purpose...I tell you what, I'll hold him down for you, you get the knife. I have a little medical background in there, I can assure you that we can keep him alive as long as you want. Certainly longer than he will want.

I see you've chosen your username well

In all seriousness, I can understand vengeance that targets the guilty party, but vengeance that targets non-guilty people is a strict no-no. I guess that's what I was trying to get at in response to meritocrat's claim that "Vengeance is never wrong."

keyser_soze · 05-05-2003, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Monkeybot
I see you've chosen your username well

In all seriousness, I can understand vengeance that targets the guilty party, but vengeance that targets non-guilty people is a strict no-no. I guess that's what I was trying to get at in response to meritocrat's claim that "Vengeance is never wrong."

Vengeance that targets other than the culprit, is not vengeance.

Selsaral · 05-05-2003, 10:08 AM

Isn't our justice system that imprisons (and occasionally executes) criminals at least partly dealing out vengeance? Sure, it also protects society by making sure the criminal cannot commit further crimes, but isn't it also a form of punishment? If so, then vengeance is a critical and common aspect of our society.

El_Hober · 05-06-2003, 10:25 PM

I think of K-PAX

"You humans, most of you, subscribe to this policy of an eye for an eye, a life for a life, which is known throughout the universe for its... stupidity. Even your Buddha and your Christ had different ideas, but nobody seemed to want to listen to them. Not even the Buddhists or the Christians."

-Prot

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05-05-2003, 10:08 AM	#23
Selsaral Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan Posts: 3,095	Isn't our justice system that imprisons (and occasionally executes) criminals at least partly dealing out vengeance? Sure, it also protects society by making sure the criminal cannot commit further crimes, but isn't it also a form of punishment? If so, then vengeance is a critical and common aspect of our society.

05-06-2003, 10:25 PM	#24
El_Hober Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 31	I think of K-PAX "You humans, most of you, subscribe to this policy of an eye for an eye, a life for a life, which is known throughout the universe for its... stupidity. Even your Buddha and your Christ had different ideas, but nobody seemed to want to listen to them. Not even the Buddhists or the Christians." -Prot

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