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meritocrat · 04-27-2003, 12:14 AM

Is revenge or vengeance immoral?

One can understand why people feel vengeful on occasion, but is it always 'ethical' to exact vengeance?

kctan · 04-27-2003, 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by meritocrat
Is revenge or vengeance immoral?

One can understand why people feel vengeful on occasion, but is it always 'ethical' to exact vengeance?

Depends upon your 'philosophy', if you regards 'an eye for an eye' as high on your list of ethics, then yes it's ethical to exact vengence.

meritocrat · 04-27-2003, 01:32 AM

Vengeance is never wrong.

The AntiChris · 04-27-2003, 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by meritocrat
Vengeance is never wrong.

How do you know?

Chris

meritocrat · 04-27-2003, 03:14 PM

It's human nature.

Nostalgic Pushhead · 04-27-2003, 04:39 PM

Okay, don't we have brains? That can use reason and judgement? There's a reason we're not sitting a field eating bananas and going ook ook okk. We're smart. We're not ruled absolutely by "human nature". Some of us have moral codes, which say things are wrong. Because it hurts people. Duh.
All these polls of yours are getting repetitous. Okay, we get your point.

The AntiChris · 04-28-2003, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by meritocrat
It's human nature.

Should we ever exercise some restraint over our "human nature"?

Chris

meritocrat · 04-28-2003, 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by Piscez
Okay, don't we have brains? That can use reason and judgement? There's a reason we're not sitting a field eating bananas and going ook ook okk. We're smart. We're not ruled absolutely by "human nature". Some of us have moral codes, which say things are wrong. Because it hurts people. Duh.
All these polls of yours are getting repetitous. Okay, we get your point.

I wasn't attempting to make 'a point'. As for polls, well it's there so I use it.

And as for harming others, you don't really mean that do you?

Nostalgic Pushhead · 04-28-2003, 05:10 AM

Sorry.

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Vengeance is never wrong.

That rubbed me the wrong way, because it seemed you were answering your own question right after asking it. But I mixed up "wrong" and immoral". Because I'm dumb.

And as for not harming others, that was just generic description of my morality. Wasn't applying it to vengeance.

Oh, but, yeah, vengeance, when it harms others, is wrong. To me.

Sarpedon · 04-28-2003, 05:18 AM

In my code of ethics, I say that revenge is wrong because violence is only appropriate in self-defence, and revenge is by definition seeking out someone after the fact, thereby initiating a new violent encounter.

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04-27-2003, 01:32 AM	#3
meritocrat Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,608	Vengeance is never wrong.

04-27-2003, 03:14 PM	#5
meritocrat Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,608	It's human nature.

04-27-2003, 04:39 PM	#6
Nostalgic Pushhead Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: So. Burlington, Vermont Posts: 4,315	Okay, don't we have brains? That can use reason and judgement? There's a reason we're not sitting a field eating bananas and going ook ook okk. We're smart. We're not ruled absolutely by "human nature". Some of us have moral codes, which say things are wrong. Because it hurts people. Duh. All these polls of yours are getting repetitous. Okay, we get your point.

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Sarpedon Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Minnesota, the least controversial state in the le Posts: 8,446	In my code of ethics, I say that revenge is wrong because violence is only appropriate in self-defence, and revenge is by definition seeking out someone after the fact, thereby initiating a new violent encounter.

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