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Old 05-04-2003, 11:37 AM   #1
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This is probably going to serve the agnostic or theist patrons best. I found this via the web and wanted the Board's feedback.

http://www.spiritualmidwifery.com/ar...mber1999.shtml

I couldn't find anything better to compare and contrast the two ideologies. If anyone has any similar links dealing with the two concepts, please state them.

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I got negative vibes from the "author unknown" opening, just don't like "author unknown" appeals.

When Richard Jefferies wrote this I think he was being spiritual as opposed to religious:
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I pray that I may have a deeper, broader, wider life. Do not let me be drawn down and destroyed in the despicable cares and ambitions of daily work. Like the weeds in the water that twist around the limbs of a swimmer, they are forever entangling the mind, dragging it down into the mire. . . I cannot take an interest in daily life, in household things, in the goings on of the city; nor even the accumulation of money; no, not even in fame. They are all a weariness of spirit to me, utterly little, and lifeless.
The true approach to Nature
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By the word soul, or psyche, I mean inner consciousness which aspires. By prayer I do not mean a request preferred to a deity; I mean intense aspiration.
As an outdoorsman, I agree. There's nothing religious about my addiction and connection to the backcountry and the wilderness.

Sometimes soul and spirit are used interchangeably, and I agree with the article in its stating that religion can act as an introduction to spirituality. But it can also be its undoing.

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some bumper stickers come to mind;

“Religion, the only thing keeping you from God.”
“We are not humans having spiritual experiences, we are spiritual beings having human experiences.”

I think of how religion probably started with spirituality, shamanistic trances and ‘herb’ induced altered states of mind. Religion is politics & power, life was hard in those days, the smart folks who could milk religion for their own benefit kept all the cool drugs to themselves, made themselves priests, convinced people how important they were and got them to build temples, bring them food & sex. They didn’t have to do anything productive, they got free food and shelter. Not to mention drugs and sex.
Spirituality seems like fun, religion a scam.
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I think of how religion probably started with spirituality, shamanistic trances and ‘herb’ induced altered states of mind. Religion is politics & power, life was hard in those days, the smart folks who could milk religion for their own benefit kept all the cool drugs to themselves, made themselves priests, convinced people how important they were and got them to build temples, bring them food & sex.
As insulting as it may sound, perhaps the truth is that we are mostly all descended from this shamanistic, priestly class who were able to successfully exploit these "lessers" to the point of near extinction. Perhaps that explains the pervasiveness of religion.

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