Darth Dane

"Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me'" (John 14:6).

What about this interpretation?

If you were to go through Jesus, who would you be, but Jesus?

You became transparent (translucid) and put your body where Christ is, and by being you, you say, "I and my father are one"
Is it this what transcendency means?

Edit: If this is true, it means we should adopt the ways of Jesus, as a man?

Edit 2: http://www.greatcom.org/laws/ Interesting site




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Darth Dane

Does noone have any comment on this?

He who is silent agrees?





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Vitalij

I made a wonderful thread on the subject earlier.

from "Articles for forum" section of the shock-site
/Original is written in Russian/

BIBLE - THE ROTTEN FOUNDATION OF FALSE RELIGIONS

Supermind (Cosmic Server) grants its Officers the right to independent creative research, even though it may be a mistake and its result is known beforehand. But it is better that the Radiant Man or a Great Teacher of The Universe tries all this for himself in practice, so that everyone could see and know the results all this leads to. One of such striking examples is the mission of Jesus Christ. It shows in practice one of the mistaken ways of the development of Open Cosmos - "The Way of the Penitent Sinner". (See the glossary of terms for the articles for forum and "Digest" ).


Once one of The Great Teachers of The Universe made a suggestion. Its essence was the following: if the penitent sinner (that is strictly involutionary consciousness) has made a firm decision to embark on the way of The Supermind (if he is helped as much as the candidate for the Radiant Man would), then he will never turn off it. Under the condition that his spiritual development is closely monitored by Representatives of Top Hierarchy of The Supermind, i.e. its Avatars. That was the version of "The Way of the Penitent Sinner". To realize this "Penitent Sinner" version, The Great Teacher of Universe, Jesus Christ, sacrificed his life, had brought and demonstrated by his own example how one should act in accordance with the principle "Lord, Your Will is Omnipotent, Yours but not mine! So be it!" That is, that body is nothing but a puppet-marionette, which must be controlled from above to maximize the efficiency of its work, obeying The Second Cosmic System of Control. He showed to the penitent sinners The Way to the Immortality of The Supermind's Omniscience, teaching them in practice to live on a reflected light (to live for others, but not for themselves) with utter non-attachment to the results of their deeds.

Jesus Christ was allowed to take any disciples without preliminary check on hardness of their Moral-Ethical Foundations, that is to his own taste.Normally, the Spiritual Teacher is obliged to check his disciples (before making them acquainted with the Supermind's sphere of activities) purity of intent (as well as their Faith and Dedication to Him) until He is fully aware of their moral readiness. This will allow to avoid many troubles on the spiritual plane further on.

The repentant sinner, having acquired the knowledge brought by Christ, was obliged to follow only this way, never swerving from the course, - be always and everywhere no less than a Christ, what none of his "disciples" (apostles) and fellow-travellers never did. They were simply unable to understand their Spiritual Teacher - because of their obtuseness and total absence of moral-ethical slogs of their Faith and Dedication to Him. All Christ apostles are just funny and rueful parodies on spiritual disciples.

They distorted a teaching of their Teacher, having practically understood nothing due to their stupidity, obtuseness and greed, in any of its forms and manifestations. The key point of the christiniaty says: one must live for others, that is to live on reflected light according to the principle "You'll reap what you sowed", with complete capitulation before the Highest, every second submitting yourself to His rule (without any attachment to the results of your deeds, without the slightest interest in any objects and thoughts constructions in crude or fine forms, especially in the field of psychical powers)

As soon as a prostitute Mary Magdalen became fed up with one thing, she sought the other: spiritual prestige. One place is not scabby - the other one is itchy: for any whore prestige is above all - that is her essence and a beginning of the catastrophic fall.

Selection of disciples without testing them - in the hope that, having repented, they would never swerve of the Way, - brings nothing but misfortune for them and those around. The one who can go on a spiritual way without imitating somebody or something, but being always a Christ, can develop along the evolution absolutely freely and securely.

The symbol of a cross - is a symbol of a body, on which all its wishes are crucified, and a call signal for the workers of the "hot workshop". After receiving it, they commute the penitent sinner to the direction his soul seeks, adding to that spiritual energy, which automatically leads the immature consciousness to build up of its thoughts-and-wishes. That is why persons, who have set forth on the way of evolution, should firmly follow it, for one step aside - and you are in the abyss, overpowered by your negative thoughts-and-wishes. "Man is created in God's own image". That is why like God he will be responsible for everything that is going on in the world!

Religious fasting - is not a combined vegetarian gormandize, but, first of all, fasting - Dry Fasting. That is curative and preventive fasting without taking inside water and food, because it is only after at least 7-10 days when negative entities, feeling their ruination under the absence of food, start leaving you. Under the condition that in doing so you also theoretically and practically bring "Peace, Happiness to All!", while being among mundane vanity amidst negative vibrations, generated by people. This is where the consciousnesses, parasitizing on you, are easily finding for themselves kindred agglomerations, where they can go. During carrying out of dry fasting it is allowed only to rinse and wash the mouth, the nose and the whole body to enable more complete cleaning of the organism from excreting toxins, as well as for strengthening the functioning of the skin. In case of carrying out the fasting on only water all your "treasures" will remain with you.

Out of all the plays going on the planet now, the mission of Christ (besides verification in practice the falsity of "The Way of the Penitent Sinner" theory) was to show that the wrong religious education preaching racial supremacy of a God's chosen nation carries the seeds of its own death, - because of the rigidity of the construction in percepting the world and due to misundertsanding of the truths picked up from everywhere, but not realized the hard way, through personal experience. For all Moses's books - is just a continuous conglomerate made up of such wisdoms, without their real comprehension, and with an addition of priests' phantasies which turned everything upside-down. For Moses himself had never reached Enlightening. That is why everything that was and is happening with the followers of the Bible and Christianity - is a consequence of the rotten foundation, which brought forth all the existing mischiefs of thermonuclear, ecological and social catastrophes. The Religious Path, short as it is in the Earth conditions, is not an easy, sightseeing tour, and no one has the right to peddle Christ's ideas, and ideas of other religions, without their true understanding. For the true education of a Radiant Man takes numerous expansions and compressions of the Universe.

The main mistake of the Islam is that first it is required to ideally slog in oneself the Selflessness of Jesus Christ, and only after that it is possible to build up military-economic disciplines. For personal Happiness of any individuum lies in the Happiness of others, and that means only one thing: one must become the Warrior of Spirit, to be despised and spit on by everybody, to be humiliated and insulted during one's life. It is not for vain that there is a saying: "The more you will open your soul, the more they will spit into it." But for a real fighter it is only a tempering to educate in oneself the Great Impartiality. This is conscious letting through oneself of all the negative and positive vibrations. This is an ability of self-command under the most severe extreme situations. All this qualities are polished only for one reason: that the consciousness which received at its disposal the military sidhies of the Open Cosmos would not use them for selfish interests, but only in case of utmost necessity.

But Islam gave rise to Sufism, which gave more Enlightened than Judaism and Christianity together. And that will give it, as to the future victor, some advantage in the fight of polarities for their survival. Therefore, there exist a real timing factor for the best and smartest representatives of Islam to change themselves during the transition of planet's inhabitants to the next loop of evolution.

Posted by Vitalij
shock-site "Earth - the planet of biorobots"

chimaira

patience, await the answer in order not to so quickly conclude.

is the question "darling is the saver of humanity?"
vyont what darling teaches us.

Jean CH 14 v 2: There are several residences in the house of my Father. If that were not, I would have said it to you. I will prepare you a place.

it say clearly that it is not the principal door to reach the paradise it is one of the doors, thus one includes/understands better when it says three verse more loins after Ca which it is the way the truth and no one does not go has god without passing through darling, because no Christians could be Christian if it does not believe in a David for example, thus it is the door in its time or its time, it will prepare a PLACE AND NOT ALL it is texto what it says.

Moreover do darlings say that it is the way (one of the ways) it do not say that it is the destination, if it you would have it would have an example in more for saying that he is god because the destinations of all believing in a god it is which? Jesus? not it say that it is the way, not chance for the chrtiens but they one wanted to follow Paul the true founder of self Christian.

does god have T-it need for sacrifice to forgive?

psalm CH 78 v 38-39.
However, in its mercy, it forgives iniquity and does not destroy; It often retains its anger and does not devote itself to all its fury.
39
It remembered that they were only flesh, a breath which from goes away and does not return.

Esaie CH 43 v 25.
It is me, me which erases your transgressions for the love of me, And I will not remember any more your sins.

Jeremy CH 36 v 3.
When the house of Juda hears all the evil which I think of making him, perhaps will return it each one of their bad way; then I will forgive their iniquity and their sin.

Esaie CH 55 v 7.
That the malicious one gives up its way, And the man of iniquity his thoughts; That it turns over to the Eternal, who will have pity of him, A our God, who does not weary himself to forgive.


CH proverbs 16 v 6-7.
By the kindness and fidelity one expie iniquity, And by the fear of the Eternal one is diverted evil.
When the Eternal approves the ways of a man, It favorably lays out in its connection even its enemies.

2 CH Chronicle 7 v 14.
if my people on which are called upon my name humiliate, request, and seek my face, and if it is diverted his bad ways, - I will exaucerai it skies, I will forgive him his sin, and I will cure his country.

ezeckiel CH 18 v 21.
If the malicious cost of all the sins which it made, if it observes all my laws and practical uprightness and justice, it will live, he will not die.
All the transgressions which it made will be forgotten; he will live, because of the justice which he practised.

CH proverb 21 v 3.
Practice of justice and equity, Here are what the Eternal prefers with the sacrifices.

osaia CH 6 v 6.
Because I like piety and not the "sacrifices", And the knowledge of God more than the holocausts.

thus according to the bible God does not want a sacrifice and serta not of the sacrifice to be able to forgive....

Voyont if darling applies these references.
"In prey with the anguish, it urged, and its sweat became like the grumeaux ones of blood, which fell to ground" (Luc 22: 44)

"the acting prayer of right A a great effectiveness" (Jacques 5: 16).

"It is him, which in the days of its flesh, offered to great cries and with tears, of the prayers and supplications to that which could save them death. Having been exaucé because of its piety it learned. "(Hebrew 5: 7)

it is clearly known as that darling was exaucé for his piety but us lisont in the old will in dared CH 6 v 6: Because I like piety and not the "sacrifices", And the knowledge of God more than the holocausts

bye

HelenM

chimaira

Thanks for your post

Your English is very good.

I do have one question: when you write "darling" are you referring to the Lord Jesus Christ?

Que le Dieu de paix, qui a ramené d'entre les morts le grand pasteur des brebis, par le sang d'une alliance éternelle, notre Seigneur Jésus, vous rende capables de toute bonne oeuvre pour l'accomplissement de sa volonté, et fasse en vous ce qui lui est agréable, par Jésus-Christ, auquel soit la gloire aux siècles des siècles! Amen!

Helen

chimaira

excuse me I am French and I use a translator who translate word for word English it is not very precise sorry .


darling I believes wants to say "saver"

Inconnu

chimaira, try http://www.freetranslation.com/. Are you learning English? I am learning French, its very difficult and tbh translators are very poor with long sentences and some of the grammer seems not to be programmed in! Usually better to have a stab at it, then use the translator to see if it makes sense

Amos

Good point Spliff. This makes us brothers of Jesus and never worshippers of Jesus. We become 'Jesuits,' and not Christians until we crucify our Jesus identity and then we can recall our own Jesus identity into the upper room to become fully one with the father. The first at-one-ment with the father is when we became a follower of Jesus (hence his "follow me" of Jn.21:19) and the full atonement is when we recognize "my Lord and My God" of Jn.20:28 as the particular as equal to the universal.

Worshippers of Jesus are identified as the second beast of Rev. 13 and will display the mark of the beast.

HelenM

Thanks - I understand what the word is now. In English we say "Savior" (which means the same as "saver")

Helen

chimaira

thank you very much inconnut for this bond. thank you helen lolllllllll in truth when you write "saver" its puts to me "saving" the translator that I have must be delirious I think it is not precise