Hawkingfan

thebeast,

Please show us how each of these is accurate:

Taken from the kick-ass Donald Morgan Secular Web Library on inconsistencies:

GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin.
RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but adds Manasseh.)

NU 25:9 24,000 died in the plague.
1CO 10:8 23,000 died in the plague.

1SA 16:10-11, 17:12 Jesse had seven sons plus David, or eight total.
1CH 2:13-15 He had seven total.

2SA 24:9 The census count was: Israel 800,000 and Judah 500,000.
1CH 21:5 The census count was: Israel 1,100,000 and Judah 470,000.

2SA 24:24 David paid 50 shekels of silver for the purchase of a
property.
1CH 21:22-25 He paid 600 shekels of gold.

1KI 4:26 Solomon had 40,000 horses (or stalls for horses).
2CH 9:25 He had 4,000 horses (or stalls for horses).

1KI 5:16 Solomon had 3,300 supervisors.
2CH 2:2 He had 3,600 supervisors.

1KI 7:15-22 The two pillars were 18 cubits high.
2CH 3:15-17 They were 35 cubits high.

1KI 7:26 Solomon's "molten sea" held 2000 "baths" (1 bath = about 8 gallons).
2CH 4:5 It held 3000 "baths."

1KI 9:28 420 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.
2CH 8:18 450 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.

1KI 15:14 Asa did not remove the high places.
2CH 14:2-3 He did remove them.

1KI 16:6-8 Baasha died in the 26th year of King Asa's reign.
2CH 16:1 Baasha built a city in the 36th year of King Asa's reign.

1KI 16:23 Omri became king in the thirty-first year of Asa's reign and he reigned for a total of twelve years.
1KI 16:28-29 Omri died, and his son Ahab became king in the thirty- eighth year of Asa's reign. (Note: Thirty-one through thirty-eight equals a reign of seven or eight years.)

2KI 8:25-26 Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began his reign.
2CH 22:1 He was 42 when he began his reign.
[Note: Some translations use "twenty-two" here in an attempt to rectify this discrepancy. The Hebrew is clear, however, that 2CH
22:2 is 42. The Hebrew words involved are Strong's H705 and H8147, "forty" and "two," respectively.]

2KI 9:27 Jehu shot Ahaziah near Ibleam. Ahaziah fled to Meggido and died there.
2CH 22:9 Ahaziah was found hiding in Samaria, brought to Jehu, and put to death.

2KI 16:5 The King of Syria and the son of the King of Israel did not conquer Ahaz.
2CH 28:5-6 They did conquer Ahaz.

2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) was eighteen years old when he began to reign.
2CH 36:9 He was eight.

2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) reigned three months.
2CH 36:9 He reigned three months and ten days.

2KI 24:17 Jehoiachin (Jehoaikim) was succeeded by his uncle.
2CH 36:10 He was succeeded by his brother.

2CH 3:11-13 The lineage is: Joram, Ahaziah, Joash, Amaziah, Azariah, Jotham.
MT 1:8-9 It is: Joram, Uzziah, Jotham, etc.

2CH 3:19 Pedaiah was the father of Zerubbabel.
ER 3:2 Shealtiel was the father of Zerubbabel.

ER 2:3-64 (Gives the whole congregation as 42,360 while the actual sum of the numbers is about 30,000.)

MT 1:17 There were twenty-eight generations from David to Jesus.
LK 3:23-38 There were forty-three.

thebeast

Accepted as a fact by whom, exactly? Christians who have had their brains scrubbed clean, or Christians who have actually seen what Joseph's geneology actuallly reads? If the former, then I agree with you. (There's nothing like a good brainwashing to get the cult members to fall in line). If the latter, then clearly it's a total fabrication.

Hawkingfan

Why am I not surprised by your answer.

Believe me, you're not wasting my time. I am dying to know this. I think you can't answer them, except that one which is an interpretation.

Look--You made the statement that the bible is accurate. You have called people like me "bald-faced" liars. I am saying it is not accurate and have given proof. Let's see you back up your statement. Or can you? So far you have proved to everyone here that YOUR statement is a "bald-faced" lie, not ours. In fact, you CHANGED your description to "nit-picking" (which is no longer under your definition of "lie", mind you). You also wrote in another thread that you are a big, tough, man. Prove it.

thebeast

Tell me hawk, how much proof do you require to come to the truth?

thebeast

how many died in the plague...?

Maybe they didn't count everyone who died, but gave an estimate.... obviously.

In fact, I can show you another error that's in Genesis that you didn't know about.

Enoch was 165 when Mathusaleh was born, not 65, as it is written.

Then I took these at ramdom for analysis: 2KI 16:5 The King of Syria and the son of the King of Israel did not conquer Ahaz.
2CH 28:5-6 They did conquer Ahaz.

Turns out the king of Syria came twice to Ahaz, prevailed the first time, and not thesecond time, so this objection is nullified, as is is easily explained by deeper reading and comprehension.
They're all like that, either immaterial, like how many died in the plague, which is an estimate, and Ahaz, which is a incomplete reading of the text.

You want contradictions, here's one for you Sarah was barren. And later is says Sarah had a a son. Now there's a contradiction for ya. Here's another Jesus lives forever. And earlier it is written Jesus died. There's a contradiction.

I have thousands like that.

Pick one, your best one, and I'll see I can find an answer. But don't tax me too much, I have a short attention span.

Pick the one contradiction that you rest your unbelief on, and maybe it will be shallow like the two I picked. And you will see for yourself the spirit of unbelief within you.

Butters

since this isn't going anywhere anyway, how about this one?
Where did Jesus' accention take place?

p.s. only the historicily accurate, infallible, word of God is allowed as evidence!

thebeast

I don't know but I would assume the mount of Olives.

Javaman

TheBeast,

Just wondering which single part of the Koran you base your disbelief on...

Butters

Thats funny, Mark says it was Jerusalm, and Luke says it was Betheny!

Javaman

I've just read some of thebeast's other posts...

Troll or sheep. Either way, I'm done.