Aerik Von

Obviously to accept the "saviour" we must know his "real" name. I am curious as to the "real" name he would have carried in the Middle East.

Tristan Scott

Yeshua Ben Yoseph, or possibly Rabbi Yeshua Ben Yoseph.

Aerik Von

Hmmm..."Rabbi"? Heh...would'nt that be ironic.

Tristan Scott

Why? He was supposedly a Jewish teacher, which is a rabbi. He is called a Rabbi in the fourth gospel.

Plebe

<a href="http://www.tombofjesus.com/ancient.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tombofjesus.com/ancient.htm</a>
you can also find various other descriptions of the name supposedly as it is and was known in Asia/India/ in the documents at the site <a href="http://www.tombofjesus.com/Conclusion.htm#bavish" target="_blank">http://www.tombofjesus.com/Conclusion.htm#bavish</a>
This site, <a href="http://www.tombofjesus.com" target="_blank">http://www.tombofjesus.com</a> claims a tomb of Jesus, but who knows, it could be some former follower of his who made it that far. An archaeology crew has been out there and has not been permitted just yet to sample from the tomb. I've corresponded with a scholarly list owner at Yahoo groups called "Jesus Mysteries" and they imply it's all hokum, but who knows, folks in that part of the world have a long tradition of their own ideas about the Rabbi..

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Wyz_sub10

Wouldn't it be Yeshua Bar Joseph, rather than Ben?

CX

This has been touched on numerous times here, but in short, Jesus is an English transliteration of the Greek IHSOUS which is a Greek transliteration of the Hebrew "Yeshu'a". Usually this is transliterated in English as Joshua, but the name Jesus has too much brand recognition to change it. Of course "Christ" is simply a title and not a name so we can only speculate what his last name might have been. It could have referred to his ancestry (Ben Yosef) or possibly his place of origin (NZRT; "[of] Nazareth" I don't know what the Hewbrew article would be). The former is the most likely as I'm not sure hebrew names referred to place names.

Incidentally the difference between BEN and BAR in Jewish names is that BEN is Hebrew and BAR is Aramaic. Both mean "son of".

RogerLeeCooke

I've also heard that Iesoûs, the Greek form (using e for eta, where you used the more standard H) was a common name in Palestine in the first century, as Koine Greek was the "lingua franca" of the time, and Hebrew had become a dead language. As I wrote on another thread here, I'm also intrigued by the resemblance of this name to "iesis", which means "healing." (It's an Attic form of "iasis", which in turn is cognate with "iatros," meaning physician, as in "pediatric.")

RogerLeeCooke

Hey, don't let those degenerate furr'ners corrupt you with their languages! As an old tent Gospel preacher puts it so well, "If Amurrican was a good enough language for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for me."

Amen-Moses

What is an "American translation"? Do you mean English by any chance?

In North American he would probably be "Crazy Fig Vandal", non-god knows what he would be in South American (anyone speak Inca?) or Central American (Maya anyone) and I doubt it would even be possible to translat into Innuit!

Amen-Moses