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rafe gutman · 11-06-2002, 12:01 PM

why pay $$ when you can just <a href="http://www.megafoundation.org/MegaFoundation/AskFifi.html" target="_blank">askfifi</a>

KC · 11-06-2002, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by rafe gutman:
why pay $$ when you can just <a href="http://www.megafoundation.org/MegaFoundation/AskFifi.html" target="_blank">askfifi</a>

The same askfifi over at ARN? So this Langan guy comes complete with a set of groupies?

Cheers,

KC

theyeti · 11-06-2002, 12:22 PM

Holy cow. There's so much humor to be mined out of these guys that this could take awhile.

Check out their "<a href="http://www.megafoundation.org/Giftedness.htm" target="_blank">Symptoms of Severe Giftedness</a>" page. (I guess it is something to feel sorry for.)

The list reads just like a horoscope! Everyone will think it's them. This whole thing is starting to look like an elaborate (or not so elaborate) scam. Maybe ISCID is their next victim.

theyeti

Douglas J. Bender · 11-06-2002, 12:41 PM

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pang-loss: Also sickening, watch how the sycophantic simpletons break out the kneepads for this guy:

<a href="http://www.arn.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=13;t=000438" target="_blank">http://www.arn.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=13;t=000438</a>

(esp. our old pal Doug Bender and Jack Wyatt....)

For your information, I am not Jack Wyatt, and never have been, and never want to be, I don't think. And I prefer to be called "Douglas", or (more formally) "Douglas Bender" or "Douglas J. Bender". Think you can remember that?

Now, what was it about what I posted that stirred you to classify me as a "sycophantic simpleton", and to suggest that I was catering to Chris Langan and his views? Or was that just one of your unthinking, knee-jerk responses?

In Christ,

Douglas

rafe gutman · 11-06-2002, 12:42 PM

considering that you can link to the askfifi page from the "columns and features" section of genie's <a href="http://www.megasociety.net/Members/Gina.html" target="_blank"> homepage</a>,.....

about 5 years ago, when the internet was just starting to boom, me and my college buddies took a bunch of online IQ tests. i got by far my highest score on <a href="http://www.iqtest.com/" target="_blank">this</a> one (by like 15 to 20 points). my theory is that the test is rigged to give you a high score, so you'll buy their "analysis" package. try it if you need an ego boost.

the only evidence i need of my high IQ is the fact that after all these years, i was able to remember the complicated url for the test's website.

pz · 11-06-2002, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by theyeti:

The list reads just like a horoscope! Everyone will think it's them. This whole thing is starting to look like an elaborate (or not so elaborate) scam. Maybe ISCID is their next victim.

Note the contradictions.

"Dislike for routine" and "Ability to persist, to become immersed in a task".

"Acute sensitivity, empathy for others" and "Tendency toward dominance and individualism".

This is a laundry list of disparate characteristics, all phrased to sound praiseworthy. You are right that this is exactly the kind of rhetorical scam used by astrologers and mediums. Virtually everyone will see that they possess many of these traits.

I note also that things like discipline, depth, education, actual performance, and the recognition of ability by your peers are omitted from this list -- it's all self-perception. It isn't diagnostic of "giftedness" at all, but it is an excellent filter for egotism.

pz · 11-06-2002, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Douglas J. Bender:


For your information, I am not Jack Wyatt, and never have been, and never want to be, I don't think.

You were not accused of being Jack Wyatt.

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And I prefer to be called "Douglas", or (more formally) "Douglas Bender" or "Douglas J. Bender". Think you can remember that?

I can remember that, no problem. I'll always think of you as "In Christ Douglas", though.

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Now, what was it about what I posted that stirred you to classify me as a "sycophantic simpleton", and to suggest that I was catering to Chris Langan and his views?

Let's let it go, ICD, and just let everyone follow the link, read your comments, and come to their own conclusions.

Tom Ames · 11-06-2002, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by KCdgw:
Hey, they offer Cyber therapy!

<a href="http://www.ctmu.org/CyberTherapy/Services.htm" target="_blank">Cyber Therapy</a>

Cheers,

KC

Hmmm. She has a Ph.D.:

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NEUROCOGNITIVE AND NEUROSENSORY SEQUELAE OF EXPOSURE TO LOW LEVELS OF ORGANIC SOLVENTS AND METHACRYLATES
Author: LOSASSO, GINA LYNNE
Degree: PH.D.
Year: 1999
Pages: 00122
Institution: WAYNE STATE UNIVERSITY; 0254
Advisor: Adviser LISA J. RAPPORT
Source: DAI, 60, no. 06B 1999: p. 3006
Abstract: In this two phase study, a group of women occupationally exposed to low-levels organic solvents and methacrylates were compared to a control group. Phase 1 examined reports of neuropsychological symptoms among women occupationally exposed to products commonly used in nail studios n = 150 and controls n = 148. Typical preparations found in nail studios contain a variety of organic solvents e.g., toluene, acetone, and formaldehyde and methacrylates with known neurotoxic properties. Nail technicians were compared to controls using the Neuropsychological Impairment Scale, a self-report measure of symptoms. MANOVA revealed significant differences in overall level of symptoms and on individual scales measuring neurologic complaints, cognitive efficiency, memory, verbal learning, and academic skills p <.001. Multiple regression indicated that symptom severity was associated with level of occupational exposure p <.01.

Phase 2 compared a group of nail technicians n = 33 and controls n = 35 on a battery of neuropsychological and neurosensory tests. Significant differences between the nail technicians obtained and predicted scores were found on the University of Pennsylvania Smell Identification Test UPSIT. Results indicated that olfaction was significantly below the expected performance based on demographic variables. On the battery of neuropsychological tests, results were analyzed by domain using a series of MANOVAs. The nail technicians performed significantly moor poorly in the domain of Attention/Working Memory suggesting this may be an area of early involvement in low-level solvent and methacrylate exposure.

Interestingly though, this "clinical neuropsychologist" doesn't seem to have a license to practice in New York.

Perhaps someone should drop a line to the licensing board?

[ November 06, 2002: Message edited by: Stagolee ]

Daggah · 11-06-2002, 02:55 PM

Dougie,

You clearly don't respect US and our wishes(your "In Christ" closing can ONLY be intended as a sign of disrespect, and I sincerely doubt you'd remove it if asked) so why should we respect yours?

Personally I don't give a flying .... as to what you prefer to be called.

So, Dougie, you best grow a thicker skin.

Douglas J. Bender · 11-06-2002, 07:19 PM

pz,

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Let's let it go, ICD, and just let everyone follow the link, read your comments, and come to their own conclusions.

Yes, let's. Apparently, this is your most powerful argument, seeing that it is the one you offer, which means you have no basis for your slander of me. By the way, pees, looks like your memory has failed you already; either that, or you were lying or simply don't care to treat others with respect.

In Christ,

Douglas

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11-06-2002, 12:01 PM	#11
rafe gutman Junior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: La Jolla, CA Posts: 72	why pay $$ when you can just <a href="http://www.megafoundation.org/MegaFoundation/AskFifi.html" target="_blank">askfifi</a>

11-06-2002, 12:22 PM	#13
theyeti Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 9,747	Holy cow. There's so much humor to be mined out of these guys that this could take awhile. Check out their "<a href="http://www.megafoundation.org/Giftedness.htm" target="_blank">Symptoms of Severe Giftedness</a>" page. (I guess it is something to feel sorry for.) The list reads just like a horoscope! Everyone will think it's them. This whole thing is starting to look like an elaborate (or not so elaborate) scam. Maybe ISCID is their next victim. theyeti

11-06-2002, 12:42 PM	#15
rafe gutman Junior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: La Jolla, CA Posts: 72	considering that you can link to the askfifi page from the "columns and features" section of genie's <a href="http://www.megasociety.net/Members/Gina.html" target="_blank"> homepage</a>,..... about 5 years ago, when the internet was just starting to boom, me and my college buddies took a bunch of online IQ tests. i got by far my highest score on <a href="http://www.iqtest.com/" target="_blank">this</a> one (by like 15 to 20 points). my theory is that the test is rigged to give you a high score, so you'll buy their "analysis" package. try it if you need an ego boost. the only evidence i need of my high IQ is the fact that after all these years, i was able to remember the complicated url for the test's website.

11-06-2002, 02:55 PM	#19
Daggah Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Deployed to Kosovo Posts: 4,314	Dougie, You clearly don't respect US and our wishes(your "In Christ" closing can ONLY be intended as a sign of disrespect, and I sincerely doubt you'd remove it if asked) so why should we respect yours? Personally I don't give a flying .... as to what you prefer to be called. So, Dougie, you best grow a thicker skin.

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