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Kalki Autar
By: Prof. Pundit Vaid Parkash
Reviewed by: Mir Abdul Majeed
Broadcasted on BICNews 8 December 1997

Pundit verifies Messenger was foretold
The Message, October 1997

*The Last Kalki Autar (Messenger) that the Veda has foretold and who is waited on by Hindus is the Prophet Muhammed ibn Abdullah (saw) *
A recently published book in Hindi has raised a lot of hue and cry all over India. In the event of the author being Muslim, he would have been jailed and a strict ban would have certainly been imposed on the printing and the publishing of the book. The author of this important research work "Kalki Autar" i.e. "guide and Prophet of whole universe" comes of a Bengali race and holds an important portfolio at Ilahabad University.

Pundit Vaid Parkash is a Brahman Hindu and a well known Sanskrit scholar and research worker. Pundit Vaid Parkash, after a great deal of toil and hard-work, presented the work to as many as eight great Pundits who are themselves very well known in the field of research in India, and are amongst the learned religious leaders.

Their Pundits, after thorough study of the book, have acknowledged this to be true and authentic research work. Important religious books of India mention the guide and prophet by the specific name of "Kalki Autar" it denotes the great man Muhammed (saw) who was born in Makkah. Hence, all Hindus where-ever they may be, should wait no longer for any other 'kalki autar' but to embrace Islam and follow in the footsteps of the last Messenger of Allah (swt) who was sent in the world about fourteen hundred years ago with a mission from Him and after accmplishing it has long ago departed this world.

As an argument to prove the authenticity of his research, Pundit Vaid Parkash quotes from the Veda, a sacred book among Hindus:

Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be the last Messenger / Prophet of Bhagwan (Allah) to guide the whole world. Afer quoting this reference the Pundit Parkash says that this comes true only in the case of Muhammed (saw).

According to a prophecy of Hinduism, 'kalki autar' will be born in an island and that is the Arab territory which is known as 'jazeeratul Arab'.

In the 'sacred' book of Hindus the father's name of 'kalki autar' is mentioned as 'Vishnu Bhagat' and his mother's name as 'somanib'. In sanskrit, 'vishnu' stands for Allah (swt) and the literal meaning of 'bhagat' is slave. 'Vishnu Bhagat' therefore, in the Arabic language will mean Allah's slave (Abdullah). 'Somanib' in Sanskrit means peace and tranquilty which in arabic is denoted by the word 'Amina'. Whereas the last Messenger Muhammed's (saw) father and mother's names were Abdullah and Amina respectively.

In the big books of Hindus, it is mentioned that 'kalki autar' will live on olive and dates and he will be true to his words and honest. In this regard Pundit Parkash writes, "This is true and established only in the case of Muhammed (saw)".

Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be born in the respected and noble dynasty of his land. And this is also true as regards Muhammed (saw) as he was born in the respected tribe of Quraish who enjoyed great respect and high place in Makkah.

'Kalki Autar' will be taught in the cave by Bhagwan through his own messenger. And it is very true in this matter. Muhammed (saw) was the only one person in Makkah who has taught by Allah's Messenger Gabriel in the cave of Hira.

It is written in the books which Hindus believe that Bhagwan will provide 'Kalki autar' with the fastest of a horse and with the help of which he will ride around the world and the seven skies/heavens. The riding on 'Buraq' and 'Meraj' by the Prophet Muhammed (saw) proves what?

It is also written in the Hindus' books that 'kalki autar' will be strengthened and heavily helped by Bhagwan. And we know this fact that Muhammed (saw) was aided and reinforced by Allah (swt) through His angels in the battle of Badr.

Hindus' books also mention that 'kalki autar' will be an expert in horse riding, arrow shooting, and swordsmanship. What Pundit Vaid Parkash comments in this regard is very important and worth attention and consideration. He writes that the age of horses, swords, and spears is long ago gone and now is the age of modern weapons like tanks, missiles, and guns, and therefore it will be unwise to wait for 'kalki autar' bearing sword and arrows or spears. In reality, the mention in our books of 'kalki autar' is clearly indicative of Muhammed (saw) who was given the heavenly book known as Al-Qur'an.

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hinduwoman · 03-01-2003, 06:31 PM

Oh Krishna, not more mis-propaganda again!

(i) Has Vaid Prakash converted to Islam? If not, does he not have confidence in his own research?

(ii) Vedas do not mention Kalki. the whole avatara cycle comes after Vedas were composed. So the scholarship of the pundit is gravely in doubt.

(iii) which prophecy says in what book 'kalki autar' will be born in an island and that is the Arab territory which is known as 'jazeeratul Arab'

(iv) The father's name is not vishnubhagat but vishnuyasha, which means the GLORY of Vishnu if anything, not slave. The mother's name is NOT mentioned.

(v) Kalki is not the messenger of god. He is the incarnation of God, which is very different.

(vi) Just where is it written that "it is mentioned that 'kalki autar' will live on olive and dates and he will be true to his words and honest. " Give reference instead of vaguely mentioning big books.

(vii) Kalki will not be taught by anyone since he is God himself.

REFERENCES, REFERENCES, REFERENCES,

(viii) The coming of Kalki will herald apocalypse, but the world is still here. No doubt to the tribes enslaved by Islam it did seem like end of the world :boohoo:

THE LAST POINT is the silliest: "He writes that the age of horses, swords, and spears is long ago gone and now is the age of modern weapons like tanks, missiles, and guns, and therefore it will be unwise to wait for 'kalki autar' bearing sword and arrows or spears. In reality, the mention in our books of 'kalki autar' is clearly indicative of Muhammed (saw) who was given the heavenly book known as Al-Qur'an. "

the Muslims seimply has not thought this through. Rivers, so you think allah is not capable of of creating a horse faster than a jet, or a sword mightier than a missile?
So allah is not omnipotent after all.!

River · 03-03-2003, 07:00 AM

Humans are made in G-d's "form". The Divine names are embedded in every human, in varying degree. Prophet Muhammad is considered G-d's most "perfect" representative on earth because he embodies all the Divine names in Perfect Balance. So Muhammad is the spokesperson for G-d. Manifestation is too strong of a word, and has heretical implications. However, Muhammad is the closest of all Creation to G-d.

Paul2 · 03-03-2003, 07:09 AM

didn't you allready post a thread about this?

River · 03-13-2003, 11:59 AM

I might possibly have been wrong......I have done some additive research and I've discovered that the Kalki Avatar might not have been Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)...However, the Kalki Avatar fits the character known as Imam Mahdi , even more closely. Imam Mahdi is the great Islamic leader and "The Rightly Guided One" who will assist Caliph Jesus Christ in restoring Islam as the official religion on Planet Earth

WinAce · 03-13-2003, 05:41 PM

Just out of curiosity, do you know what 'retroactive shoehorning' is?

River · 03-13-2003, 05:51 PM

Yes, but I also know when " retroactive shoehorning " is not being utilised.

03-01-2003, 11:28 AM	#1
River Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NY Posts: 3,680	Is Prophet Muhammad the "KALKI AVATAR" of Hindu Scripture!!!!!?!! W i t h t h e N a m e o f G o d , T h e B e n e f i c e n t , T h e M e r c i f u l Hate Hurts. Love Cures. Conjecture Fails. Truth Prevails. Islam - Bearing witness to the Truth Seek Understanding from Knowledge/ Information http://saif_w.tripod.com/interfaith/...lki_avatar.htm Kalki Autar By: Prof. Pundit Vaid Parkash Reviewed by: Mir Abdul Majeed Broadcasted on BICNews 8 December 1997 Pundit verifies Messenger was foretold The Message, October 1997 The Last Kalki Autar (Messenger) that the Veda has foretold and who is waited on by Hindus is the Prophet Muhammed ibn Abdullah (saw) A recently published book in Hindi has raised a lot of hue and cry all over India. In the event of the author being Muslim, he would have been jailed and a strict ban would have certainly been imposed on the printing and the publishing of the book. The author of this important research work "Kalki Autar" i.e. "guide and Prophet of whole universe" comes of a Bengali race and holds an important portfolio at Ilahabad University. Pundit Vaid Parkash is a Brahman Hindu and a well known Sanskrit scholar and research worker. Pundit Vaid Parkash, after a great deal of toil and hard-work, presented the work to as many as eight great Pundits who are themselves very well known in the field of research in India, and are amongst the learned religious leaders. Their Pundits, after thorough study of the book, have acknowledged this to be true and authentic research work. Important religious books of India mention the guide and prophet by the specific name of "Kalki Autar" it denotes the great man Muhammed (saw) who was born in Makkah. Hence, all Hindus where-ever they may be, should wait no longer for any other 'kalki autar' but to embrace Islam and follow in the footsteps of the last Messenger of Allah (swt) who was sent in the world about fourteen hundred years ago with a mission from Him and after accmplishing it has long ago departed this world. As an argument to prove the authenticity of his research, Pundit Vaid Parkash quotes from the Veda, a sacred book among Hindus: Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be the last Messenger / Prophet of Bhagwan (Allah) to guide the whole world. Afer quoting this reference the Pundit Parkash says that this comes true only in the case of Muhammed (saw). According to a prophecy of Hinduism, 'kalki autar' will be born in an island and that is the Arab territory which is known as 'jazeeratul Arab'. In the 'sacred' book of Hindus the father's name of 'kalki autar' is mentioned as 'Vishnu Bhagat' and his mother's name as 'somanib'. In sanskrit, 'vishnu' stands for Allah (swt) and the literal meaning of 'bhagat' is slave. 'Vishnu Bhagat' therefore, in the Arabic language will mean Allah's slave (Abdullah). 'Somanib' in Sanskrit means peace and tranquilty which in arabic is denoted by the word 'Amina'. Whereas the last Messenger Muhammed's (saw) father and mother's names were Abdullah and Amina respectively. In the big books of Hindus, it is mentioned that 'kalki autar' will live on olive and dates and he will be true to his words and honest. In this regard Pundit Parkash writes, "This is true and established only in the case of Muhammed (saw)". Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be born in the respected and noble dynasty of his land. And this is also true as regards Muhammed (saw) as he was born in the respected tribe of Quraish who enjoyed great respect and high place in Makkah. 'Kalki Autar' will be taught in the cave by Bhagwan through his own messenger. And it is very true in this matter. Muhammed (saw) was the only one person in Makkah who has taught by Allah's Messenger Gabriel in the cave of Hira. It is written in the books which Hindus believe that Bhagwan will provide 'Kalki autar' with the fastest of a horse and with the help of which he will ride around the world and the seven skies/heavens. The riding on 'Buraq' and 'Meraj' by the Prophet Muhammed (saw) proves what? It is also written in the Hindus' books that 'kalki autar' will be strengthened and heavily helped by Bhagwan. And we know this fact that Muhammed (saw) was aided and reinforced by Allah (swt) through His angels in the battle of Badr. Hindus' books also mention that 'kalki autar' will be an expert in horse riding, arrow shooting, and swordsmanship. What Pundit Vaid Parkash comments in this regard is very important and worth attention and consideration. He writes that the age of horses, swords, and spears is long ago gone and now is the age of modern weapons like tanks, missiles, and guns, and therefore it will be unwise to wait for 'kalki autar' bearing sword and arrows or spears. In reality, the mention in our books of 'kalki autar' is clearly indicative of Muhammed (saw) who was given the heavenly book known as Al-Qur'an. Copyright � 1997 The Message, an ICNA Publication. INTERACT WITH US NOW ! Join our mailing list 4Islam and participate in discussions on Islam and comparative religion issues with people of similar interests, Muslims and Non-Muslims alike. Get access to additional free resources & utilities too. Just type your email address on the box at right. 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River Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NY Posts: 3,680	AND THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS.... I might possibly have been wrong......I have done some additive research and I've discovered that the Kalki Avatar might not have been Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)...However, the Kalki Avatar fits the character known as Imam Mahdi , even more closely. Imam Mahdi is the great Islamic leader and "The Rightly Guided One" who will assist Caliph Jesus Christ in restoring Islam as the official religion on Planet Earth

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hinduwoman Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: India Posts: 6,977	Oh Krishna, not more mis-propaganda again! (i) Has Vaid Prakash converted to Islam? If not, does he not have confidence in his own research? (ii) Vedas do not mention Kalki. the whole avatara cycle comes after Vedas were composed. So the scholarship of the pundit is gravely in doubt. (iii) which prophecy says in what book 'kalki autar' will be born in an island and that is the Arab territory which is known as 'jazeeratul Arab' (iv) The father's name is not vishnubhagat but vishnuyasha, which means the GLORY of Vishnu if anything, not slave. The mother's name is NOT mentioned. (v) Kalki is not the messenger of god. He is the incarnation of God, which is very different. (vi) Just where is it written that "it is mentioned that 'kalki autar' will live on olive and dates and he will be true to his words and honest. " Give reference instead of vaguely mentioning big books. (vii) Kalki will not be taught by anyone since he is God himself. REFERENCES, REFERENCES, REFERENCES, (viii) The coming of Kalki will herald apocalypse, but the world is still here. No doubt to the tribes enslaved by Islam it did seem like end of the world :boohoo: THE LAST POINT is the silliest: "He writes that the age of horses, swords, and spears is long ago gone and now is the age of modern weapons like tanks, missiles, and guns, and therefore it will be unwise to wait for 'kalki autar' bearing sword and arrows or spears. In reality, the mention in our books of 'kalki autar' is clearly indicative of Muhammed (saw) who was given the heavenly book known as Al-Qur'an. " the Muslims seimply has not thought this through. Rivers, so you think allah is not capable of of creating a horse faster than a jet, or a sword mightier than a missile? So allah is not omnipotent after all.!

03-03-2003, 07:00 AM	#3
River Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NY Posts: 3,680	Humans are made in G-d's "form". The Divine names are embedded in every human, in varying degree. Prophet Muhammad is considered G-d's most "perfect" representative on earth because he embodies all the Divine names in Perfect Balance. So Muhammad is the spokesperson for G-d. Manifestation is too strong of a word, and has heretical implications. However, Muhammad is the closest of all Creation to G-d.

03-03-2003, 07:09 AM	#4
Paul2 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,088	didn't you allready post a thread about this?

03-13-2003, 05:41 PM	#6
WinAce Beloved Deceased Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Carrboro, NC Posts: 1,539	Just out of curiosity, do you know what 'retroactive shoehorning' is?

03-13-2003, 05:51 PM	#7
River Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NY Posts: 3,680	Yes, but I also know when " retroactive shoehorning " is not being utilised.

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