peacenik

They may have finally went to far this time by lying to our service men and women.

Even some of Bush's staunchest supporters are going to be angered by this.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/W...6_Abizaid.html

What happened to supporting our troops? Why is it that the Republicans, who claim to be 100% behind the troops are always the first to treat them like shit? Why are they the first to ask for cuts in vereran's benefits! Will this hypocrisy ever catch up with this bastard?

TollHouse

Perhaps the Iraq's are not the only people in need of liberation?

Ensign Morituri

From ABC News:


It is unfortunate that professional soldiers made comments like that. The rules on speaking to the press while in uniform are generally pretty clear. Here's something else that's really unfortunate:
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"Leadership" my tired ass. Talk about shafting your troops. I guess those soldiers who spoke out have nothing to worry about. Hopefully their platoon commanders (who are stuck in the same sorry situation) have the good sense to send a verbal shitstorm to these guys and then leave it at that.

Does anyone remember when this Iraq thing just had to be over before the summer heat became a factor?

Right, and WWI was going to be over by Christmas 1914.

jman0904

What? Soldiers questioning the intelligence of those who sent them into the field? Heavens to bitsy I hope not! After all, they're only risking their lives because Bush said so. So why should they question him?

Sauron

[austin powers]
Yeah, baby!
[/austin powers]

Another soldier who was interviewed, Spc. Clinton Deitz, said he had a message for the defense secretary. "If Donald Rumsfeld was here," he said, "I'd ask him for his resignation."

Asked about the comments made to him by the soldiers, Kofman said he did not pre-interview any of them to find soldiers who were critical of the situation in Iraq before they spoke on camera.

ex-idaho

It is guys like this one that keep me from feeling any sympathy for them. The American notion of vengence is something that I just can't tolerate.

jman0904

When do we start handing Mother Nature her ass?
Oops! Bush has been working on that for a while.

Danya

I was told repeatedly these guys were being sent to Iraq to protect my freedom to say all the bad things I did about Bush and the war before it started. (Which I never understood since Ashcroft was a much bigger threat to my freedom of speech than Saddam ever was.) How ironic that now these men aren't even allowed the freedom to do the same.

They are forced to show reverence and respect to these mental midget's who themselves declined to risk spilling a drop of their own blood or sweat to fight for their country. Add to that the fact that Rumsfeld was so incompetent he never bothered in the year he anticipated the war to plan for what happens once it's over. Or Bush who was so eager to invade he preferred to burn his bridges at the UN rather than take the necessary steps to get their help.

Maybe if this war had truly been necessary and not simply something they chose to do the troops wouldn't have to wonder what they were doing there now.

The only way they are coming home is if Bush has the balls to face the UN and formally ask for their help again like he had to do before he started the war. Only this time he has to at least appear to be sincere about it. If he won't do that he better just bring them all home and give up the occupation...not only for the sake of the troops but for the sake of the Iraqi people who will inevitably bare the brunt of their anger.

CALDONIA

In their arrogance (Rumsfeld) and ignorance (Bush) one would not expect people in this Administration to pay attention to historical lessons.

In 1898 we went to war to "liberate" Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Philippines from Spain mostly on the basis of the destruction of a battleship whose cause was never unequivocally "found" (sounds familiar). No coalition was ever sought to prosecute that war.

We were engaged in over ten years of sporadic guerilla warfare in the Philippines before we finally removed most of our combat forces.

Success in warfare amounts to a little more than pulling down a statue of a dictator and strutting around the deck of an aircraft carrier in a fighter-pilot's uniform.

BibleBelted

Have you ever read Mark Twain's Grief and Mourning for the Night? It's an account of the massacre of, IIRC, about 600 Moro men, women and children by US soldiers under the command of Leonard Wood - a slaughter which continued over three days and nights. It is one of the most heartbreaking pieces of anti-imperialist literature I've ever read.

Of course, Twain was dismissed as old and cranky by the press at the time - and today Wood is considered an American hero.