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Re: Most Americans believe in God?
- who was the Apostle Paul?
Founder of the Beatles along with the apostels Ringo, John and George - can you name any of the Gospel books? Yes. - what does the term "born again" mean to you? A good shower and a nice shave. - when was the last time you attended church? Some wedding. - Do people really go to Hell? The ones on crack cocaine sure do. - Do you believe in creation and the great flood? I'm a creative person, and the great flood costed many lives in the provincy of Zeeland, sparking the construction of the Delta Works - Do you believe in the miracles of Jesus Christ? Erm... no. - What is God? (I threw that one in just cause I've always wanted to know) Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more. - Do you get to heaven on faith or deeds? Which one is beer made of again? |
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actually, I brought up the rapture because its a question that would help separate fundies from more moderate christians. brettc didnt bring it up. |
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They think that before the second coming of Christ 144,000 people will be beamed up to Heaven, physically disappear from Earth. Then a whole bunch of bad stuff will happen to the rest of us while Jesus & Satan duke it out.
To complicate matters, some believe in a literal 144,000 taken in the rapture, but most American fundies believe all "born-again" Christians will be snatched up (and some believe the innocent children will be included. To follow up on what Stryder posted, and borrowing a bit from here and here (a good history of Darby and dispensationalism): The "modern" dispensational theory of premillinnealism was the brainchild of John Nelson Darby, the "father of dispensationalism", in the 1830s. Darby's credited with the theory that there's not one, but two, "second comings" of Christ prophecied in the bible. In addition to the Revelation of John, premillinnealism teaching also relies on the book of Daniel and on some of Jesus' teachings, and perhaps a few other scattered scriptures. Within premillinnealism, there are several beliefs as to when the rapture will actually take place, which are the cause of significant rifts in the ranks of the rapture-ready: Pre-Tribulation - before the start of the Tribulation Mid-Tribulation - at the mid-point of the Tribulation Post-Tribulation[ - at the conclusion of the Tribulation Pre-Wrath - the church will go through the great tribulation by Antichrist during the end times, but will be raptured immediately before the 'Day of the Lord' wrath, when Christ cuts short the persecution of Antichrist. Partial - only those who are faithful in the church will be raptured or translated and the rest will either be raptured sometime during the tribulation or at its end. I believe pre-tribulation is the most widely held belief among dispensationalists, and post-tribulation the second most widely held, but I may be wrong on that. To complicate matters even more, in addition to premillinnealism, there's also postmillinnealism and amillinnealism. If I understand these right, both hold that there's only one "second coming of Christ," and thus no "rapture". The first (postmillinnealism) holds that the world will someday be "Christianized" and enter a "millennium" of peace and righteousness, at the end of which Christ will return to establish the Kingdom of God; the second (amillinnealism) holds that there's to be no millennium, but that the world will churn along, with good and evil battling it out until Christ comes back to set things right and establish the Kingdom of God. No doubt there's many variations on the above beliefs. Including mine, which is that it's all a bunch of superstitious nonsense. |
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--What is the rapture?
It's a make believe story, and a gross one at that. --Who gets to go to heaven? No such place. It's a myth --can you name 7 of the 10 commandments? I don't need to know what morals and right and wrong are from an ancient ridiculous book. --How long was Paul an apostle of Christ? a trick question Who cares? Saul schamal ---Have you ever been to a faith healing? Yes, when I was a child. They scared the hell out of me and made me cry every time. Pure BS. It was cruel to do that to an innocent child. (or a gullilble adult) --Have you ever donated money to Benny Hinn or the 700 club? Hell no, my mother has but she is psychotic. A big BS to the rest of the religious cult questions asked here! To Infinity Lover, toilet paper always goes over! lol UH OH! Amie- Do you believe in the miracles of Jesus Christ? Infinity Lover :Erm... no. Amie: ...yes love you are still searching...I am patient though |
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Most of the statistics referred to in this thread come from the American Religious Identification Survey, 2001 (ARIS) . Adobe Acrobat is needed for this .pdf file. The file has 47 pages.
brettc: The statistical breakdown of all the religions and non-religions is given on pages 13 and 14. fando: Pages 20 through 24 give graphs gauging the religiousness of various groups. Along with all its other charts and findings, ARIS is a very fascinating and informative survey. I've read through it three times so far. You owe it to yourself to read through it instead of relying on secondhand accounts of it. |
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brettc, here are some statistics from the Barna Research Group, (which is a Christian organization).
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