Valentine Pontifex

Okay. I hereby say "God exists, God exists, God exists" therefore God exists therefore theism is true and therefore you owe two trillion United States dollars.

What? You don't accept this line of argument? I think you just don't to may me the money.

See you in court. Unless you want to settle for writing me a check for a few thousand. This just shows my generous nature since that settlement costs less than the your attorney's fees would be if we went ot court.

;-) ;-)

Valentine Pontifex

I don't think this is a problem. After all John Gotti had a lawyer and a rather good one at that.

;-)

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Jimmy Higgins

Well, it isn't me. I need to gather a board of atheists together to discuss whether they agree with your logic. Its their decision, not mine, though I am on the board. And the decision must be unanimous! And I have an overriding vote, if needed.

Also, I need to ask you how your feeling on theism disproves evolution (albeit star evolution, macro-micro-nano evolution, and why the sky is blue).

Bubba

Ditto

Camaban

*remembers one quote when someone was using the polar bear as evidence for macroevolution*

On another note, I reckon he'd have so much more credibility if he actually made an attempt at being polite past the first few correspondences.

John

Update: $250,000 Evolution Challenge Accepted!

As of October 8, 2002 Dr. Hovind has not responded -- let alone awarded the $250,000 prize to Callahan:

A long-standing offer to prove evolution has recently been accepted by John D. Callahan, a theistic evolutionist and president of Faith & Reason Ministries: Reconciling Christianity with Accepted Science, <a href="http://www.faithreason.org/" target="_blank">http://www.faithreason.org/</a> . The offer is being made by Dr. Kent Hovind, a young-Earth creationist and leader of Creation Science Evangelism, <a href="http://www.drdino.com/" target="_blank">http://www.drdino.com/</a> .

Dr. Hovind's challenge has been a rallying cry for creationists, and he asserts few, if any, legitimate inquires have been made -- and certainly no proof. However, evolutionists contend Dr. Hovind is not open to empirical evidence and scientific method. In an open letter to Dr. Hovind, Callahan claims to concisely prove evolution consistent with belief in God. The letter may be viewed at <a href="http://www.faithreason.org/" target="_blank">http://www.faithreason.org/</a> .

Doubting Didymus

Is Hovind even a free man at this time?

Valentine Pontifex

Of course it has not been awarded. Mr. Hovind's conditions have not been met. They will never be met because the wording of the challenge is worded in such a way to be impossible to meet even if evolution is true and there is excellent evidence for it (which of course there is).

Albion

Well, that example of wolves turning into pugs is just going to be sneered at as proving that an intelligent designer is needed before anything can turn into anything. Except that things can't turn into other things. Well-known fact (to YECs, anyway). So an intelligent designer is required to make sure that things don't turn into other things. Um...

Quetzal

Nope. Remember, kinds only ever produce after their kind. Ya know - Diploblast and Triploblast kinds, bacteria kind, archaea kind, etc. It's all microevolution from there...