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07-22-2003, 01:02 PM | #1 |
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Upstart religions: learn from Christianity!
I'm not a very keen follower of apologetics or interfaith conversations, but recently I've began to think that Christianity, as opposed to almost all other religions on planet, seems to have some very powerful advantages: it's old, it's big, it spreads like a virus, and it has a very strong theological tradition. So, partly in jest, partly seriously, I compiled this list of stuff that a new religion should do in order to take over the world...
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Neat post .
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To describe this briefly, imagine a pyramid of circles that aren't touching each other. Each circle represents a cell. Connect the cells vertically to one cell above them. This represents the communication system and ineraction between cells. The lines of communication are between only 1 person in each cell. With this method order come straight down from the top, and reports travel straight back up. No one besides the liasons is aware of any of the identity or often even the actions of any other cell, and the liasons are only aware of those directly beneath and above them on the pyramid. When a cell is infiltrated, no regular member of the cell has any information on other cells to provide, and the liasons will be hard pressed to give any. In the rare event of a weak liason, infiltration will only have a chance to spread up and down 1 cell. This system makes it exceedingly difficult to difuse the orginization, only attacking the head cell will even make a dent, and usually there is a cell that will be ready to replace the old head cell, and perpetuate the organization. So, in short, you are very correct to suggest such a method for starting a cult that may come under attack Jayjay. |
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I think you missed out one of the most important things: the sales pitch. The most effective doctrines are based on the notion that humans are evil/corrupt/damned, etc and are in dire need of redemption/salvation/healing, etc. Convince them that the world is on a downward spiral, heading for certain oblivion and offer them a way to escape. Make them feel sick and sell them the snake oil as the cure.
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Good point, mike. I'll add the related carrot-and-stick tactic. You need a rich reward for compliance and harsh punishment for non-compliance (though mostly postponed to the afterlife, as the failure of reward or punishment promised immediately may lead many to doubt).
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You forgot the most important part of a new religion. Mandatory, tax deductable, monetary donations.
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ImGod, I was thinking about that angle as well.
The essential need to donate can be enhanced by providing a carrot - as in give abundandly and freely, and it will be given back to you in blessings (either here or, more than likely, in the afterlife) one hundredfold. You could think of a stick to go with this one too. |
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Yes, the afterlife blackmail is always a good method to convert people. If they do not desire a reward, then threatening them with pain should work, because only masochists enjoy pain.
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And give all members of the religion extra points for converting others, so that it will spread like a virus.
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Rewards and punishments are a must. But they have to be separated so that the rewards come from the deity/deities, but punishments are caused by the wretched people themselves.
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Sounds a bit like... Mormon. (I don't think Scientology will have the staying power. At least I hope.)
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