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BioBeing · 05-08-2003, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by mike_decock
Maybe they peek through their feathers.

-Mike...

Ahhh - but now you are assuming that they have feathers. Maybe they are more like bats wings

Magus55 · 05-08-2003, 01:24 PM

Do you guys ever get tired of mocking Christianity?

mike_decock · 05-08-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Do you guys ever get tired of mocking Christianity?

"If Christianity were true, it wouldn't be so easy to make fun of."

-Mike...

AJ113 · 05-08-2003, 01:57 PM

Hi
In answer to the opening post I can tell you that they are descendents of the German tribe from Schleswig that settled in Northumbria, Mercia and East Anglia, all situated in what is now the UK.

Eh?

Oh, ANGELS!

I thought you said ANGLES!

Ah, no problem. You don't have to concern yourself with angels. There's no such thing.

Mageth · 05-08-2003, 01:59 PM

Do you guys ever get tired of mocking Christianity?

As far as I can tell, angels are not Christianity. They're not even unique to Christianity.

Further, humorous speculation is not "mocking."

Babylon Sister · 05-08-2003, 02:02 PM

As a child, back in my Christian days, we were taught that "Angel" was an office, not a specific being and that an angel was simply a messenger.

Also, when you die you can't become an angel because the ranks of angels had been chosen "before time began."

mike_decock · 05-08-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by BioBeing
Ahhh - but now you are assuming that they have feathers. Maybe they are more like bats wings

Oy, Vey! I'm gonna have to reconsider my entire theology now!

-Mike...

Amaranth · 05-08-2003, 02:29 PM

Let's not forget that Angels are technically just the lowest order of beings in the heavenly hierarchy. Seraphim and Cherubim are the other ones we've covered - What about the Virtues, Arch-Angels, Thrones, and other orders I can't recall? Are we actually correct in calling all these other beings "angels"?

I know I certainly don't want to piss off a sword-of-fire wielding Seraphim if referring to him as a mere Angel is an insult.

Amaranth

BioBeing · 05-08-2003, 02:48 PM

Magus - I'm pedantic. I nit-pick like this about anything I read or see. Please do not think that I am singling you or your religion out. This does happen however to be the Infidels discussion board, so I discuss religion here. At other boards I talk more about society in general, or maybe computers and technology... but I read everything with a critical eye, and point out contradictions and absurdities as I (think I) see them.

The bible just happens to be the major reference work for virtually everyone around me. (If I lived in a muslim country, I don't doubt I'd be questioning the Quran. However, I was brought up in England, with the Bible, and now live in the States). Millions of people worldwide (claim to) live by the Bible. And, in my opinion, it make NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. My being here is in part my trying to understand my fellow man. Why do people like you, my friends and neighbours, believe in it so deeply? What is it about this book that gives you that sense of well-being (or whatever it is it gives you). Why do I not get that? Why is it that all I see are contradictions, inconsistancies, and other garbage? Why is it that people who read this book, and believe in it, try to undermine the scientific method and promote creationism in schools? Why do they use it as their basis for judging abortionists, homosexuals, people who have sex before marriage? Why is it used as justification for wars? Why are so many of the people who preach it (e.g the TV evangalists especially) such crocks of hypocritical sh*t? The culture of the bible is huge in this country, and I just don't get it!

So then, why is it wrong for me to ask exactly what an angel is? To ask what their wings are made of? Why is it wrong for me to joke about talking assess? Why is it wrong to ask what Jesus's DNA was like? This book, this deity, makes no sense. I don't get it. No-one can explain it to me, in terms that make any sense to me. So, if that is mocking, then please forgive me.

{edited to delete a tiny bit of potential mockery by BioBeing}

abe smith · 05-09-2003, 07:50 AM

One can alwiz go to Thos Aquinas, and to the Catholic Church's Catechism for material about such qq as these...
To be sure, given that AllThis Stuff is manmade baloney, based on nothing that is or ever WAS experiential, the perpetrators of this junk are free to allege anything they like; and the True Believers are equally-free to believe anything they like.
The REAL PHYSICAL VISIBLE World has more fascinating stuff in it than these silly inventions.

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05-08-2003, 01:24 PM	#22
Magus55 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 7,204	Do you guys ever get tired of mocking Christianity?

05-08-2003, 01:57 PM	#24
AJ113 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hull UK Posts: 854	Hi In answer to the opening post I can tell you that they are descendents of the German tribe from Schleswig that settled in Northumbria, Mercia and East Anglia, all situated in what is now the UK. Eh? Oh, ANGELS! I thought you said ANGLES! Ah, no problem. You don't have to concern yourself with angels. There's no such thing.

05-08-2003, 01:59 PM	#25
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Do you guys ever get tired of mocking Christianity? As far as I can tell, angels are not Christianity. They're not even unique to Christianity. Further, humorous speculation is not "mocking."

05-08-2003, 02:02 PM	#26
Babylon Sister Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wyoming Posts: 894	As a child, back in my Christian days, we were taught that "Angel" was an office, not a specific being and that an angel was simply a messenger. Also, when you die you can't become an angel because the ranks of angels had been chosen "before time began."

05-08-2003, 02:29 PM	#28
Amaranth Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 279	Let's not forget that Angels are technically just the lowest order of beings in the heavenly hierarchy. Seraphim and Cherubim are the other ones we've covered - What about the Virtues, Arch-Angels, Thrones, and other orders I can't recall? Are we actually correct in calling all these other beings "angels"? I know I certainly don't want to piss off a sword-of-fire wielding Seraphim if referring to him as a mere Angel is an insult. Amaranth

05-08-2003, 02:48 PM	#29
BioBeing Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 6,004	Magus - I'm pedantic. I nit-pick like this about anything I read or see. Please do not think that I am singling you or your religion out. This does happen however to be the Infidels discussion board, so I discuss religion here. At other boards I talk more about society in general, or maybe computers and technology... but I read everything with a critical eye, and point out contradictions and absurdities as I (think I) see them. The bible just happens to be the major reference work for virtually everyone around me. (If I lived in a muslim country, I don't doubt I'd be questioning the Quran. However, I was brought up in England, with the Bible, and now live in the States). Millions of people worldwide (claim to) live by the Bible. And, in my opinion, it make NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. My being here is in part my trying to understand my fellow man. Why do people like you, my friends and neighbours, believe in it so deeply? What is it about this book that gives you that sense of well-being (or whatever it is it gives you). Why do I not get that? Why is it that all I see are contradictions, inconsistancies, and other garbage? Why is it that people who read this book, and believe in it, try to undermine the scientific method and promote creationism in schools? Why do they use it as their basis for judging abortionists, homosexuals, people who have sex before marriage? Why is it used as justification for wars? Why are so many of the people who preach it (e.g the TV evangalists especially) such crocks of hypocritical sh*t? The culture of the bible is huge in this country, and I just don't get it! So then, why is it wrong for me to ask exactly what an angel is? To ask what their wings are made of? Why is it wrong for me to joke about talking assess? Why is it wrong to ask what Jesus's DNA was like? This book, this deity, makes no sense. I don't get it. No-one can explain it to me, in terms that make any sense to me. So, if that is mocking, then please forgive me. {edited to delete a tiny bit of potential mockery by BioBeing}

05-09-2003, 07:50 AM	#30
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	One can alwiz go to Thos Aquinas, and to the Catholic Church's Catechism for material about such qq as these... To be sure, given that AllThis Stuff is manmade baloney, based on nothing that is or ever WAS experiential, the perpetrators of this junk are free to allege anything they like; and the True Believers are equally-free to believe anything they like. The REAL PHYSICAL VISIBLE World has more fascinating stuff in it than these silly inventions.

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