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Vylo · 08-04-2003, 12:26 PM

I am engaged in an argument on the christian forums and I am looking for some soures if any of you can assist:

Are there any atheists here who are biblical scholars, and if so what arguments do you have against the history of Jesus being true? The person I am debating is trying to state that no biblical scholar would dispute jesus's historical backing, and that no biblical scholar could disprove the bible.

Any assistance you can give is appriciated.

dirkduck · 08-04-2003, 01:20 PM

Not sure if this is the kind of thing your looking for, but I saw this post a couple days ago:
What's the best argument against historical Jesus?
Good luck!

Toto · 08-04-2003, 01:28 PM

There are biblical scholars who have reached their atheism through studying the bible. Robert Price comes to mind. His position is that you can not prove the existence of a historical Jesus, and that early Christianity appears to have coalesced from many different centers, rather than starting with one (semi-divine or not) person.

Check out his articles in the II Library.

Arken · 08-04-2003, 01:34 PM

He is, of course, not here (as he isn't anywhere anymore), but Isaac Asimov was an atheist and since he did write a guide to the bible I'm sure you could consider him a biblical scholar.

Vylo · 08-05-2003, 05:29 AM

Thanks for the help guys

Echo · 08-05-2003, 05:54 AM

Gerd Ludemann is a New Testament scholar who used to be a "liberal Christian" but, if I recall correctly, has since repudiated Christianity entirely. Whether he is an atheist, I do not know. His books are well worth a read.

ProNihil · 08-05-2003, 09:03 AM

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Vylo Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: washington, NJ 07882 Posts: 253	Atheist biblical scholars? I am engaged in an argument on the christian forums and I am looking for some soures if any of you can assist: Are there any atheists here who are biblical scholars, and if so what arguments do you have against the history of Jesus being true? The person I am debating is trying to state that no biblical scholar would dispute jesus's historical backing, and that no biblical scholar could disprove the bible. Any assistance you can give is appriciated.

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08-04-2003, 01:20 PM	#2
dirkduck Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,038	Not sure if this is the kind of thing your looking for, but I saw this post a couple days ago: What's the best argument against historical Jesus? Good luck!

08-04-2003, 01:28 PM	#3
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	There are biblical scholars who have reached their atheism through studying the bible. Robert Price comes to mind. His position is that you can not prove the existence of a historical Jesus, and that early Christianity appears to have coalesced from many different centers, rather than starting with one (semi-divine or not) person. Check out his articles in the II Library.

08-04-2003, 01:34 PM	#4
Arken Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 6,303	He is, of course, not here (as he isn't anywhere anymore), but Isaac Asimov was an atheist and since he did write a guide to the bible I'm sure you could consider him a biblical scholar.

08-05-2003, 05:29 AM	#5
Vylo Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: washington, NJ 07882 Posts: 253	Thanks for the help guys

08-05-2003, 05:54 AM	#6
Echo Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Winter Park, Fl USA Posts: 411	Gerd Ludemann is a New Testament scholar who used to be a "liberal Christian" but, if I recall correctly, has since repudiated Christianity entirely. Whether he is an atheist, I do not know. His books are well worth a read.

08-05-2003, 09:03 AM	#7
ProNihil Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 228	Ferril Till

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