Buffman

Fidelitas, Popef�hrer Therese! Ve demand fidelity! If you are not faithful, ve vill excommunicate you. Ve are vatching you!

Since you are so close to your God, would you mind taking a peek and telling me if He has a belly button or not? I have wondered about that for a long time.

Gemma Therese

God has no physical attributes.

Amos

I was going to add that in comparative mythology the final round of samsara ends suffering (or conflict, dukkha) and so we can now equate the Christ-mass with Nirvana, with the Ultimate Form, with Parousia and with Pure Reason. If Pure Reason is void of intuition the convergence of the Father with the Son is needed to remove all intuit knowledge . . . "so they will know we are one."

Northrup Frye held that the path of religion is to go down and through parody to find extacy which is just opposite to the pursuit of rational thought which forever tries to purify suffering to obtain exctasy.

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Buffman

G.T.

God has no physical attributes.

Evidently you are not talking about the god of the Judeo-Christian Bible. Either that or you need to reread it without applying your personal interpretations...which have absolutely no authority whatsoever.

1. Gen 1:26 & 27
2. Gen 32:30 & 31
3. Exod 24:9 & 10
4. Exod 33:11
5. Exod 33:20 & 22,23
6. Exod 34:1-4

Why should anyone listen to you rather than believe the prophets? If people can't believe the prophets, then why should they believe anything in the Gospels?

(Ve are not pleased.)

Gemma Therese

All those passages are figurative.

Buffman

G.T.

Does that mean that the entire Holy Bible is figurative? Which parts are and which aren't?

Prove any claims "you" make!

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Gemma Therese

Why do I need to prove them to anyone???

Gemma Therese

Undercurrent

You don't have to prove any of them to anyone, even yourself.

Unless, of course, you want any of us to have a reason to join your religion. In that case proof, or at least consistent justification would be useful.

m.

Bible Humper

The parts you like are literally true, the parts you don't like are metaphors for something you do like.

You're just jealous that the Xians get to build their own deities, go buy yourself a Lego kit or something!

BTW Gemma, I'd love to see how you dressed up your Mr.PotatoYah. Start by telling us what those physical attributes of your deity described in the bible are "supposed" to mean.

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Buffman

G.T.

Undercurrent said it better than I could.

However, I spent a summer working in a facility filled with people who made public claims but couldn't prove them. We had to make sure that they never got access to anything with which they might hurt themselves or others. Currently you appear to have access to something with which you have hurt yourself. All I am attempting to do is alert others that you are unable to explain, let alone justify, your beliefs and actions. You are accomplishing the rest without any assistance from me. Thank you.

Gemma, why not attempt to be honest and simply admit that religious beliefs are based on faith, not fact. Even a non-supernaturalist like myself can admire honesty and sincerity. So far you have offered little more than equivocation and circumlocution in a feeble attempt to sell fraudulent eternal life insurance policies to needy and gullible clients. If your religious faith beliefs were valid, they certainly wouldn't need unqualified humans to sell them. The fact that you need to push them is indicative of their hollowness.

(ADDED)

Bible Humper

You're just jealous that the Xians get to build their own deities, go buy yourself a Lego kit or something!

I had hoped that Santa would bring me one for CHRISTmas. I wrote him a letter at the North Pole. Maybe you got it?

(Ve are vatching you, also!)

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