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beth · 04-29-2003, 05:37 PM

I thought God did commit suicide on the cross.

winstonjen · 04-29-2003, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by blondegoddess
I thought God did commit suicide on the cross.

Yeah, but unfortunately it wasn't permanent.

Badfish · 04-29-2003, 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by winstonjen
Yeah, but unfortunately it wasn't permanent.

If it wasn't permanent, then you are saying God is real?

This just shows the human default position for having the instinct that an intelligent designer exists.

Caught ya.

winstonjen · 04-29-2003, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Badfish
If it wasn't permanent, then you are saying God is real?

This just shows the human default position for having the instinct that an intelligent designer exists.

Caught ya.

I don't think the 'default' human position is belief in any deity. I was just assuming that the bible was true for the purposes of discussion.

lpetrich · 04-29-2003, 07:29 PM

According to the eminent medieval theologian St. Thomas Aquinas, God cannot do any of these things:

Make another God
Make himself not exist
Commit sins
Make a man without a soul
Make a triangle whose angles do not add up to 2 right angles (180 degrees)

Magus55 · 04-29-2003, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Paperstreet
Being omnipotent and omniscient etc... could God kill himself if he wanted? He apparently has feelings such as love and jealousy and must feel pretty bad about sending nearly every person known to exist, to hell, according to the bible. Would it be possible for God to commit suicide, and what would happen if God did kill himself. (if he existed)

I would guess... yeah he could, and the world would remain the same.

No He couldn't. Defies His nature and puts Him in a paradox. If He could kill himself, He wouldn't be eternal and omnipotent - in which case He can't kill himself.

Magus55 · 04-29-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by blondegoddess
I thought God did commit suicide on the cross.

No, Romans killed God's mortal, human body.

winstonjen · 04-29-2003, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
No, Romans killed God's mortal, human body.

By not taking steps to prevent his own death, Jesus commited passive suicide - like not undergoing treatment for a cancer that could easily be cured without extensive detrimental side-effects. QED.

winstonjen · 04-29-2003, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by Magus55
No He couldn't. Defies His nature and puts Him in a paradox. If He could kill himself, He wouldn't be eternal and omnipotent - in which case He can't kill himself.

But he contradicts himself in His Own Word (TM) so many times, so why would it be a problem for him? As an example, in Genesis, he condemns all women to painful childbirth for something that A&E did, and later he says, "They will only be responsible for the sins they themselves commit." :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

What's going on here?

lpetrich · 04-29-2003, 09:43 PM

This reminds me of what some Marxists are known to concede:

There is nothing on which Lenin does not contradict himself several times

(recalling this from memory)

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beth Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: where orange blossoms bloom... Posts: 1,802	I thought God did commit suicide on the cross.

04-29-2003, 07:29 PM	#15
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	According to the eminent medieval theologian St. Thomas Aquinas, God cannot do any of these things: Make another God Make himself not exist Commit sins Make a man without a soul Make a triangle whose angles do not add up to 2 right angles (180 degrees)

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lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	This reminds me of what some Marxists are known to concede: There is nothing on which Lenin does not contradict himself several times (recalling this from memory)

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