SRWelch

My uncle-in-law, who is involved with Indian politics, just sent the below "prediction" by Nostradamus around. It's obviously a hoax (not that any of Nost's "predictions" aren't) -- get a load of the bogus Latin!

I'd like to blow this out of the water, and wonder if anyone here has seen the likes of this particular farce before. Thanks . . .

SRW

Note: "BJP" refers to the ruling Bharata Janata Party of India.


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Forwarded. Mr.Nostradamus's Prophecy is coming true; we Hindus erred in
putting faith in BJP and supported it during elections. There were
indications of betrayal but we hoped against hope.
>
> Friends,
>
>
> This are extracts of an article I wrote three years ago for my Ferengi's
column of the Indian Express. Was it prophetic? It seems so, at a time when
the BJP is turning the guns of its armed forces against its own people, the
Hindus. One cannot think of a greater betrayal. What power does to people.
> François Gautier
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Nostradamus and The BJP
>
> Michel de Nostre-Dame, better known as Nostradamus (1503-1566), was a
famous French astrologer whose predictions - which included the
assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy, or the premature death of the
previous Pope - have proved infallibly accurate.
>
> Last month, unpublished manuscripts of Nostrodamus have been discovered
(and authentified) in an old trunk in the French city of Lyon. Curiously,
there are two full pages, which deal at length with India, particularly with
the Bharatiya Janata Party and the just concluded elections. We are giving
here the first words in Latin, the language which he used, along with a
rough translation in English.
>
> "Politicus Bharatus Janatus Indicus veni grandus est vingtus unus
centurus - Congressus oublium est "
>
> The Bharatiya Janata Party will come to dominate India in the beginning of
the 21st century, as the Congress, will slowly sink into oblivion.
>
> "Malheureusus, duo annum millenium trahisonus idealum est Congressus
ressemblum, fautum adoptus est. Electionirium Blanca Madamus attaquum"...
>
> Unfortunately, to achieve power, the BJP may gradually forsake most of its
idealism and it will not address the real burning changes which India needs
to adopt so as to become again a Great Power".
>
> And Nostradamus goes on to enumerate these changes :
> "Congressus independantum Blancum copium est; necessarus changum indianus
cumum facus est"
>
> As the Congress had heavily borrowed from the White Man (British ?) at
Independence, it will become necessary to
>
> "Indianize" the nation so that it may manifest again its true unique soul.
>
> "Panchayatum villagum empruntus. Sanskritus introdum est. Historicum
ecritum manus, daemonus est. Yogum, respirationnus introdum est"
>
> Give back the power to the villages in the form of Panchayat. Reintroduce
Sanskrit as the national language. Rewrite Indian History, which had mostly
been devised by White Masters. Revive ancient traditional systems such as
pranayama, yoga, and incorporate them in the education system and everyday
life. Change the Constitution so that democracy may not be perverted as it
will be
>
> "Malheureusus, secularus montrarus Congressus devenium est, corptionus
introdus cancerus est..."
>
> Unhappily again, goes on to say Nostradamus, the BJP in its eagerness to
prove itself secular (secularus is originally a Latin word), will tend to
become like the Congress : corruption, bureaucracy, the VIP plague, the
madness of subsidies and the hunger for power, may eat its inner core as a
cancer
>
> And this is Nostradamus' scoop - if we may say : "Politicus Bharatus
Janatus interminum dividus duum et novus politicus formus"
>
> After some time, the Bharatiya Janata Party may split into two. Sincere
idealists will form a parallel party which will have as its political
platform many of the ideals which the BJP had forsaken.
>
> "Indianus pretus reformus est, Grandus nationus manum"
>
> India by that time will be ready for the Big Change and the new party will
sweep away the polls and implement these reforms.
>
> "Sanskritus savantuus nationalum languus, decentralisum governmentus,
aryanus theorum mortuum est, dharmum hinduus devenum. Christianum, Islamus
influencum"
>
> Scholars will sit down to modernize and simplify Sanskrit; government will
be decentralised; India will strive to form of a federation of SAARC
countries; the theory of the Aryan invasion will be proved false and it will
be shown that Indian civilisation is at least ten thousand years old and has
influenced all great ancient civilisations and religions such as
Christianity and even Islam.
>
> And finally :
> "Aurobindus Ghosus realisum est, Indianum Agus ancientus mortum non est"..
>
> And the prophecy of Sri Aurobindo will be fulfilled : "India of the ages
is not dead nor has She spoken Her last creative word. And that which She
must seek now to awake, is not an anglicised oriental people, docile pupil
of the West and doomed to repeat the cycle of the Occident's success and
failure, but still the ancient immemorial Shakti recovering Her deepest
self, lifting Her head higher towards the supreme source of light and
strength and turning to discover the complete meaning and vaster form of Her
Dharma".
>
> end
>
>
> =====
>
>

Freemind

Hey, everything on the internet is true, everything emailed is true, and the bible is a true historic account - so, this has to be true...good find!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Tom Sawyer

Isn't it interesting that these "recently discovered" documents just happen to deal with something that is happening right when they are discovered? Obviously the people who claim to have found them have no interest in the direction of Indian politics.

How exactly does one "authentify" things anyways?

DMB

Isn't this meant to be satirical?

SRWelch

DMB, I wish this was meant to be satirical, but unfortunately it's not...

SRW

Veil of Fire

Isn't there a Nostradamus passage that predicts the Vikings will win the Superbowl this year?

lpetrich

Nostradamus had written in Old French, not Latin, and the "Latin" looks extremely horrible. "Bharatiya Janata Party" in Latin might better be

Factio Baratiae Zanatae

And the word for "big" is not "grandus" (1st, 2nd declensions) but "grandis" (3rd declension).

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ebolamonger

um......wouldn't his prophecies be written in French, anyway? my dad has a book on Nostradamus and the prophecies are in French.

IMO, though, it's all bunk--French or no French.

*nikki

ebolamonger

Oops, lpetrich, you beat me to it.

*nikki

The Lone Ranger

Nostradamus' "authentic" prophesies are nowhere near this specific.

In my opinion, that's one reason why they're so popular; they're so vague that they can be interpreted to mean anything.

Cheers,

Michael