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Old 05-18-2003, 02:37 AM   #1
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Default The card game

We have four card players.

And they have dealt all cards and are ready to play.

1 card per round.

Spade is the trump colour.

You have to match colour, of the first card played in each round.

If you can't match colour, another colour is used, with spades as trump cards.

High card win.

Joker(s) clears the table if used as the first thing in a round, spades loose to a joker in this instance.

Object to win as many rounds as possible.



Now, at any dealing, all the possible combinations is already mapped out as possibilities. The cards can be combined in many ways without breaking the rules.

As we play, one possibility and one final result gets more and more likely to happen.
When the game has been played, one possibility manifested itself.
The other final results could also have happened, given the rules of the game, however only one outcome can happen at the time.

So we deal cards again, same procedure, many possibilities but only one possibility is manifested.

How many ways can the same game be played? Infinitely.

So every possible outcome is already inherent in the cards before they play, and so we can "predict" the future, based on the cards we have, yet the future is in motion, cause someone may play differently that expected or anticipated.


Yet within these rules, that can't be broken, or we wouldn't play the game, -we can move freely.

So no matter how we act, that possible future has always been possible, but not manifested until you actually do it.

This leads to destiny. Given our hand of cards, we can play them differently, but any card we have is within the game, and we can use it how we want, if it fits the given round.


So every possible outcome of life is already a possibility, yet only one of those possibilities have manifested. That manifestation is our universe, up until now. We can choose to play our cards differently, instead of going to the cinema and watching Matrix: Reloaded, we can change and see Down with Love instead.



We choose the future, we freely choose our destiny.






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"While one is never free from one's situation, one is always responsible for what is made of one" - Jean-Paul Satre.

We can't escape the mechanism, but that doesn't mean we can't change it for the better.
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Just a minor point:
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How many ways can the same game be played? Infinitely.
Not with a standard deck, there aren't. Even chess has a finite number of possible games.
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Just a minor point:
Not with a standard deck, there aren't. Even chess has a finite number of possible games.
But that number is so large that it is impossible that humans will ever play every possible game which means you can just call it infinity eventhough technically it's not. Just to show you what i mean:

"The number of possible ways of playing the first four moves per side in a game of chess is 318,979,564,000 "

the average game is about 40-50 moves
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Well, this game is played by approx. 6 billion players, each having lets say 7 cards.

This is 42 billlion cards, the ways to play these cards, would seem infinite, especially when new players come and go.


I received this from a friend who also read the OP.

Some game info:
The game is administered by "GOD" (maybe an abbreviation of "Game Organization Department" ?).
All questions, complaints etc. shall be directed here.
All answers shall be received from here.
If you communicate through other players check that they communicate with GOD.
If you have a difficult hand, you may ask for help on how to play it.
And you may get as much help as you need.
Sometimes, though you have asked, there is apparently no help. But the game goes on.
If you quit the game, next round you will get the same cards as you had when you quit.
When you have leaned how to play the game you may go on to a new game. It is decided by GOD (not by you) when this has happened. And the rule about quitting still applies.

Some game advice:
- Better to play your hand "wrong" than to sit over. The argument is that you learn more by playing.
- Actually it is impossible to play your hand wrong. Because you are learning by playing, any way you play it is the right way. Some players argue that some ways are more right than others as you learn faster. Others argue that time is an illusion, so it is irrellevant how fast you learn. Did anyone ask GOD ?
- Don't ask for an easy hand - ask to be a skilful player. This will happen as you play and learn.

I hope we all agree to play this round till the end before we start a new round. Keep playing !


Or is it:

God = Game Of Death?




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We choose the future, we freely choose our destiny.
Changing the laws of physics at will are we?

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Changing the laws of physics at will are we?

Well, it is said that the observer affects the experiment, thus we change some laws of physics, wouldn't you agree?




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Changing the laws of physics at will are we?

Well, it is said that the observer affects the experiment, thus we change some laws of physics, wouldn't you agree?
, well, the observer would say that, wouldn't they! BTW, I don't agree - to say so twists the definition of an observer in a scientific experiment. I think there are issues in observability - like when you squash a cell to observe it in the lab. They other way of looking at this is to recognize that the laws of physics is some notion in your head.

Evidently we can change the physical world just by thinking though in a limited way through control over our limbs etc. Do you have an example that shows we can change physical reality through thought alone?

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, well, the observer would say that, wouldn't they!

LOL,yeah

BTW, I don't agree - to say so twists the definition of an observer in a scientific experiment.

Yes, but if by definition we are part of the experiment, i.e. both in the physical world. For obvious purposes, we don't assume teh observer has any influence, because other wise we couldn't formulate "objective" laws.

Evidently we can change the physical world just by thinking though in a limited way through control over our limbs etc. Do you have an example that shows we can change physical reality through thought alone?

Memory. By memory we can remember a good occasion, this remembrance will cause a physical reaction, and release endorfines(or whatever) so we feel good. We feel good about something that is not in reality, but the feeling is real.

I caused my body to produce certain chemicals, which some assume is the feelings cause, by using my thought.




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Good morning.

The game gets more interesting (and unpredictable) if the players decide to bet on the game. How much will be bet? How will each player handle him or her self? Poker faces? Bluffs?

It gets more interesting still if the skill level of the various players is unequal.

It gets still more interesting if one or more of the players owes a lot of money to someone, and/or knows how to cheat.

And, your entire 'destiny' thing is contradicted (and outcomes become possible which your scenario does not predict) if some of the players arrive to the table carrying concealed handguns...

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