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Old 05-22-2003, 03:10 AM   #11
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This poor excuse for a human must have been off his medication for a long time. As it turns out, the man is divorced and his daughter lives with his ex-wife and they enjoy a relationship with church and God.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Newdow was not at any time married to the mother of his daughter. Not that I'm trying to pry into the man's personal life, but I think the facts are important ... especially since this columnist is obviously thinking-challenged. It would be a personal pleasure to nail the man for an error-in-fact!
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:35 AM   #12
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Oh for cryin' out loud, is there a factory somewhere that churns these people out?

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"At a time when we need God and religion in our lives more than ever,
Speak for yourself. I don't need a non-existent skyfairy or spooky rituals to make me feel better.

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the U.S. Supreme Court is poised to strike down the words “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
..thereby doing its job, which is upholding the constitution.

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It was forced upon the courts by a Sacramento atheist, Michael Newdow,
..who believed the constitution was being violated and decided to do something about it. That is his right, nay, his duty as an American citizen.

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who claimed he was bothered that his daughter had to “watch and listen” while a teacher leads the class in what he described as a “ritual proclaiming that there is a God.”
There are places where you can hear superstitious claptrap. They are called churches.

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This poor excuse for a human must have been off his medication for a long time. As it turns out, the man is divorced and his daughter lives with his ex-wife and they enjoy a relationship with church and God.
Two paragraphs and you're already into the vitriol, Mr Stone? And you're calling Mr Newdow "a poor excuse for a human"?

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Yet, the Supreme Court will probably hear the case sometime this year and you can expect “under God” to be taken out of the pledge.
..thereby restoring it to its original, and constitutionally correct, form. You do support the constitution, don't you, Mr Stone? If not, why don't you leave? There are plenty of countries which have state-sponsored religion.

(I apologise for the somewhat sarcastic tone of my responses. I've had a rough day and morons like this bloke raise my blood pressure)
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Old 05-22-2003, 11:07 AM   #13
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Tony

As a professional nit picker, I just can't let this pass.
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Nicolas Copernicus was burned alive because he said that the Earth is round.
Copernicus died in bed. It is said that he first saw his book, De revolutionibus orbium coelestium, in print on the day he died. Kepler, Galileo, and Newton (of course) supported Copernicus' theory. Brahe did not.

It was Girodano Bruno who was burned at the stake. Bruno held several ideas that were unpopular with the Inquisition, only one of which was that the earth was not fixed at the center of the universe.
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Old 05-23-2003, 12:07 PM   #14
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Oh for cryin' out loud, is there a factory somewhere that churns these people out?
It kinda looks that way, doesn't it? I almost hope there's such a factory. It'd be downright disheartening to learn that the volume of lunacy expressed in that editorial occurred naturally.

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At a time when we need God and religion in our lives more than ever, the U.S. Supreme Court is poised to strike down the words “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
Whadaya mean "we," blow-dried white man? I for one am doing just fine in my God-free and religionless world. There's a great deal to be said for accepting reality as-is rather than trying to impose artificial constructs on it for one's own selfish ends.

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Yet, the Supreme Court will probably hear the case sometime this year and you can expect “under God” to be taken out of the pledge.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Court hasn't yet decided whether to take the case at all. If it does take the case, there's no way in hell it'll be heard and decided this year.

And why can't one - just ONE - of these fools accurately describe what's at issue in this case?! Repeat after me, Gerald: "Regardless of this case's final disposition in the Supreme Court, the words 'under God' will remain in the Pledge." See how simple that is?

And then Mr. Stone is all like . . .

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Since 1954 we have been using the phrase. President Dwight Eisenhower, who signed the bill into law, said, “From this day forward, the millions of our school children will proclaim the dedication of our nation and our people to the almighty.”
. . . but shortly thereafter he's all like . . .

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The Bush administration, in its petition to the high court, argues that the Pledge is not like a prayer or invocation. They’re the only ones making sense.
Well, which is it? Pick a position, ANY position. Either Eisenhower is right and Ted Olson is trying to rewrite relatively recent history, or Olson is right and Eisenhower was lying through his teeth. Can't have it both ways, dude.

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But, the atheist-inclined liberals will probably get their way.
Exactly which Supreme Court is this idjit talking about? He certainly can't mean the Supreme Court of the United States. In that Court, the Ninth Circuit's final decision in Newdow likely goes down in a 6-3 fireball.

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The Ten Commandments are coming down from every public building, so taking out “under God” is just the next step in eliminating God from our society.
It's a sick, sad and sorry diety that needs government support to maintain a toehold on "society," whatever that means.
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Old 05-23-2003, 05:07 PM   #15
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Newdow is on the local right-wing radio talk show right this minute.

I don't know how he deals with the same stupid questions and comments over and over again.

A caller just told him " I don't believe you are an atheist, you just HATE god"

Not one caller supporting him

Amazing
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"Tony

As a professional nit picker, I just can't let this pass.
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Nicolas Copernicus was burned alive because he said that the Earth is round. "


gallo,

Thank you for correcting me.
Sorry, I got emotional when I read article.
Of course, I meant Giordano Bruno.

Thanks again.
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