MikeG

I was just wondering - once man is extinct, which will surely happen before too long (in space time terms anyway), what will god do with the universe?

Will he make it all dissapear since once the sole objects of his attention have been to judgment?

Will he let the planets and starts continue to whirl about until they all explode / fall into a black hole - or- expand into a heat death?

In short is there a pint to existance of the material universe *from gods point of view* once man is gone?

I think this highlights the obvious inneficient nature of a perfect god - that such excess was created for billions of years, for just a few humans to gaze at for a micro-fragment of time. And so much that we will never see. If there were an afterlife I'd prefer it not be spent kissing gods ass but instead going on a tour of the universe for a few trillion years, exploring other worlds... then if I must live forever maybe an endless gauntlet of beautiful women... whoops, better stop here as my wife could read this.

Blue_Metal

I know exactly what you mean.

and isn't this SO Monty Python?

hedonologist

I'm not sure why it would matter to your point, whether the God were "perfect". It sounds like you are saying this would make him imperfect, if he existed.

What need would God have to be "efficient" in that sense? Does he need to conserve energy?

sullster

Good point, MikeG. What about the billions of years in the past? God surely was lonely for a lot of time. No humans to torment and befuddle. No souls to burn in his eternal ovens. No sons to send to earth to die on a cross. No one to worship him and kiss his butt.

Must have been lonely, watching asteriods smash into the earth or later when the only creature he could talk to was a dinosauer. Maybe he was the first to talk to plants.

You see, he has dealt with the absence of humans before and can do it again. Don't you worry a bit.

hedonologist

No, don't worry. hehe A transcendent God would have created the whole thing: past, present and future, "at once". No more need to conserve time than energy. I just don't think it is all that good an argument.

MikeG

The idea of the human / god relationship as the end goal of the universe is quite silly when one considers the age & size of the universe. It's just one of those simple ideas that I forget about from time to time (I suppose there are so many about religion that it's hard to have them all at the front of the brain), but when recalled the idea is as potent as ever. At least, thats how I felt and why I made the post.

Ysabella

Make something else? I'm guessing here.

Maybe single-cell organisms in the primordial ooze had rudimentary souls, so teasing and picking on them was fun, so God got out the silly putty and made more complex critters, and plants, and the dinosaurs, which were fun for loads of time. Maybe humans are just getting up to speed and He's off getting his chemistry set and Radio Shack soldering iron to mess around with us.

So evolution maybe was just God getting bored with picking on life forms, and creating new ones to scare. And then we go scratching into the fossil records, He must find that amusing. Or maybe he laughs hardest when people translate the Bible into Klingon.

hedonologist

Mike, you said the same thing as the first time, but you didn't give any reason or rebuttal to what I said.

Maybe God put it all there so we would see how little we are in comparison to what he could do.

Kvalhion

To what end? Why would a God even have a need to do such a thing? You can come up with thousands of "what ifs" that do not change a thing about the real world we live in if you like. I would rather focus on reality and what matters.

Viti

I watched the Blue Planet series on Discovery this weekend (watch it, buy it, whatever it is outstanding). I kept thinking "How can anyone seriously believe all of this was created by an intelligent being and that WE are somehow at the top?", there are unimaginable types of life out there....that no human will ever see and that serve no "purpose"!!