ps418

No, not at all. Include as many or as few celestial bodies as you want, and the predictive success of astrology will still suck.

ps418

The 'mental character' of planets and asteroids? Welcome to the 4th millenia BC. . .

I have developed a manual describing the mental characters of every star and asteroid in the visible universe. I'd be happy to sell copies of this manual to any interested parties for 50 US$. Concise format. Saves lots of time.

Patrick

Volker.Doormann

What measurements were taken to determine that rape children and/or woman has an scentific provable effect?

The point natural physical science never grasp, is, that there is a spiritual order beyond the provable physical nature to recognized, which in not to be measured. If justice, love, respect of souls, respect of the holyness of the femal womb has no measurable reality in nature to you, then I can't help you. It's not to measure by physical science; it's ONLY TO BE RECOGNIZED. There is nothing in astrology to be shown, only to be recognized. That is not a lack of astrology, but a lack of him who is spiritual stupid. Who believes in French? Who believes in German? Its a stupid question. A language is . Astrology is. It is a science, art and an old trade.

Volker

ps418

Unlike the effects of planets, the effects of rape can be determined epirically, by psychological assessments of rape victims. Now then, with that out of the way, please answer Baidarka's question. Unless you are ready to admit that you cannot answer even this obvious, fundamental question?

Let me put it this way: Pluto is a symbol of stability/unchanging-ness, not transformation. How do you show me I'm wrong.

Patrick

Majestyk

So was alchemy.

Shadowy Man

Well you got two out of three right.

Until Astrologists propose a testable mechanism for the planets' effects on human behavior it will not be accepted as a science.

Volker.Doormann

Muhammad also has determined empirically psychological assessments, which was later written in the Quran.

I'm sure, you do fight for this 'science'.

Volker

Autonemesis

That's exactly what astrology asserts, that the outer, natural world is symbolic of the inner, spiritual world.

Volker.Doormann

i.) There is no need for an acceptation. Astrology does work also without this acceptation from the natural science community. ii.) I have written a software code as testable tool, that can be used - without an astrologer - to measure significant hits of the interpretations. If scientists are able to expert that humans psyche scientifically correct without any doubt , I give my program for free. iii.) On Sorbone, Paris you can make a dissertation in Astrology. iv.) If science did not perceive, that quantum mechanics and relativity is not to used to understand and help humans in its function of the soul, then science will be closed, because the community will simple strike the money for this ethical hoax called natural science, and will give it to astrology schools and students. v.) That's life.

Volker

Volker.Doormann

I dont know. There is not really an affect; It is like a gravitational field between to big masses. There is nothing to detect, but there are real gravitational forces. Similar to this, a birth while an opposition of two planets the baby is between two bodies 180° apart from eachother. All integer values of 4*sqr(cos(angle)) between two discrete planets results in a significant stamp of the character (orb < 5-7° FWHM), well known since the Sumerian have divided the circle in 6 times 60° 4500 years ago. It's an old science.

Volker